The 19 rules changes up for a vote by owners

MintBaconDrivel
Senior Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Your thoughts?

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By Competition Committee; Permanently moves the line of scrimmage for Try kicks to the defensive team’s 15-yard line, and allows the defense to return any missed Try.

By Competition Committee; Permits the offensive and defensive play callers on the coaching staffs to use the coach-to-player communication system regardless of whether they are on the field or in the coaches’ booth.

By Competition Committee; Makes all chop blocks illegal.

By Competition Committee; Disqualifies a player who is penalized twice in one game for certain types of unsportsmanlike conduct fouls.

By Competition Committee; Changes the spot of the next snap after a touchback resulting from a free kick to the 25-yard line.

By Baltimore; to amend Rule 5, Section 3, Articles 1 and 2 (Changes in Position) to require players to wear jersey vests with numbers appropriate for their positions.

By Baltimore; to amend Rule 15, Section 2, Articles 1, 4, and 5 (Instant Replay) to provide each team with three challenges and expand reviewable plays.

By Buffalo; to amend Rule 15, Section 2, Articles 1, 4, and 5 (Instant Replay) to permit a coach to challenge any official's decision except scoring plays and turnovers.

By Carolina; to amend Rule 8, Section 2, Article 1 (Intentional Grounding) to expand the definition of intentional grounding.

By Kansas City; to amend Rule 14, Section 2, Article 1 (Half-distance Penalty) to add penalty yards to the distance needed to gain a First Down.

By Kansas City; to amend Rule 8, Section 1, Article 2 (Legal Forward Pass) to prohibit quarterbacks from falling to the ground, getting up, and throwing a forward pass.

By Minnesota; to amend Rule 15, Section 2, Article 1 (Coaches' Challenge) to eliminate the requirement that a team be successful on each of its first two Instant Replay challenges in order to be awarded a third challenge.

By Washington; to amend Rule 16, Section 1, Articles 1, 4, 6 and 7 (Overtime procedures) to eliminate overtime periods in preseason games.

By Washington; to amend Rule 15, Section 2, Article 4 (Reviewable Plays) to subject personal foul penalties to Instant Replay review.

By Washington; to amend Rule 15, Section 2, Article 1 (Coaches' Challenge) to eliminate the requirement that a team be successful on each of its first two Instant Replay challenges in order to be awarded a third challenge.

By Competition Committee; Expands the horse collar rule to include when a defender grabs the jersey at the nameplate or above and pulls a runner toward the ground.

By Competition Committee; Makes it a foul for delay of game when a team attempts to call a timeout when it is not permitted to do so.

By Competition Committee; Eliminates the five-yard penalty for an eligible receiver illegally touching a forward pass after being out of bounds and re-establishing himself inbounds, and makes it a loss of down.

[*]By Competition Committee; Eliminates multiple spots of enforcement for a double foul after a change of possession.[/list]

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wpr
Preferred Member

8 years ago

Not too much here. I do agree that it is dumb to require a team to win both challenges before they are awarded a third challenge. We have seen the refs blow an obvious call and force teams to use their last challenge.
I would prefer the NFL to use the MLB method of review. Have the official put on the headset and talk to the NFL office back in NYC or some studio somewhere. They can have 20 high def tvs look at multiple angles all at the same time.

sschind
Senior Member

8 years ago

I like #10. I always hated the half the distance crap. 1st and 10 from your own 2 yard line. Personal foul on the offense Wow 1st and 11 from the 1. Big punishment. Make it first and 25 or at the very least make the down count. on the opposite and of the field if you can't march off the full yards against the defense put it at the one. 1st and goal from the 10. Personal foul on the defense make it first and goal from the one not the 5.

Another rule I always hated was the automatic first down on some defensive penalties. 3rd and 20 from your own 20, defensive holding 5 yards and an automatic first down. I can see that one though as it would simply encourage holding by the defense on any third down pass play over 5 yards. I'd rather see 5 yards maybe even 10 and replay the down like most penalties. If the yards make it past the first down marker then fine if not march off the yards and give them the down over. This would need some tweaking. Definitely down on the half the distance one though.

wpr
Preferred Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: sschind

First comments are fine. I agree.

The holding penalty as you want it would be a problem if it is not a first down too. Instead of 10 yards or more like the PI they give only 5 AND the first down as the penalty. There are still a ton of plays where the DB is grabbing the receiver when he makes his break. Without the first down kicker there will be twice as many DBs holding. Any defense would gladly give up 5 yards instead of a potential 20-30 yards or maybe a TD. That is why they are so willing to grab under the current rule.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

8 years ago

"Changes the spot of the next snap after a touchback resulting from a free kick to the 25-yard line." Is this on punts and Kick Offs? Why did they move up the kick off spot resulting in less returns only now to penalize the team for kicking it into the endzone? I thought with the concussion issues the league wanted less returns on punts and kick offs?

sschind
Senior Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

I get that. Maybe there is no way to make it so that the holding wouldn't be the better option for the DB. It just seems overly harsh to me. It may be harshest penalty there is for the infraction. Maybe its because it can be such a game changer that it seems that way.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: sschind

I dislike it because it seems to be able to be called on any play. It allows too much ability of the refs to manipulate the game in my opinion.

wpr
Preferred Member

8 years ago

I dislike it because it seems to be able to be called on any play. It allows too much ability of the refs to manipulate the game in my opinion.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

Just like holding by the OL? There are penalties on every single play if the Refs want to make the call. Some crews are more than willing to call everything. Other crews swallow the whistle.

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