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Before the NFL changes the rules on kickoff returns in the name of player safety, Packers veteran Dallin Leavitt spoke against the proposal.

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IMO Great Article including the stats breakdown of the kickoff injuries (basically the NFL is full of BS)


“If you don’t play the game of football, there’s not going to be football injuries.”


That concussions on kickoffs essentially doubled over the past few years is noteworthy but, still, it’s 19 concussions out of a play performed about 2,700 times last season. As part of their battle against the rules change, Breer reported that coordinators determined 11 of the 19 concussions were sustained on a kickoff that reached the end zone; the rules change will do nothing to prevent those from occurring.

Moreover, Leavitt said, “I think the issue is that a lot of the concussions came from the preseason games. It’s a different product in the preseason vs. what’s out there in the regular season in terms of players, technique, ability to be under control. It’s just a different product.”




“I don’t know the NFL’s purpose is. If they were really worried about player safety and concerned about the truth about player safety, we wouldn’t play on turf fields. There’s all these different areas that we can discuss about player safety. It’s not that. It’s an NFL decision, I don’t agree with it and I’m not going to speak on it because I’m not going to say anything that’s going to get me in trouble.”
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With that new information in mind, I honestly believe this is a distraction... so the NFL can claim players safety while fully ignoring the field turf situation.

Where turf fields cause the most injuries, yet the NFL won't force the owners to change them, as some stadiums were built for turf and it'd be very costly to go to grass full time, so they're trying to avoid it for NFL games.

And despite all of this, some soccer games are coming to the same exact stadiums, and the soccer league rules say the field must be grass, so they're doing it for the soccer games, but not for the football games... and why is that?

​​​​​​They need a distraction from those questions...

 
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a year ago
From the SI Article:

11 of the 19 concussions were sustained on a kickoff that reached the end zone;

Rather defeats the injury argument.

That notwithstanding, I agree with the rule change because otherwise we would be seeing more teams use the strategy of  a very high kick coming down at the 5.  This strategy would  would have led to more concussions IMO.
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From the SI Article:Rather defeats the injury argument.

That notwithstanding, I agree with the rule change because otherwise we would be seeing more teams use the strategy of  a very high kick coming down at the 5.  This strategy would  would have led to more concussions IMO.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



​​​​​​Precentage wise, the squib kicks potentially might add even more concussions than the sky high 5 yard line kicks.

It'll be interesting how teams handle the changes.

But this is still extremely strange move by the NFL, as they tend to hate to adopt rules that other leagues beat them to first ... and out of no where, they just randomly agree to follow an NCAA rule?

One which doesn't make much of a difference 8 concussion (19-11=8) on about 2,700 plays, so less than 0.3% of the time (which is less than 0.003)... 

And much of which happened in the preseason... so the safest change might of been getting rid of that extra preseason game.

This is a distraction or talking point only... that or them moving more and more to get rid of kickoffs all together if that's their long term plan.
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I think a lot of these rule changes the NFL claims are "safety" are more litigation driven than safety driven. I think the lawsuits over concussions has caused a ripple effect throughout the NFL rules. 

The Pro Bowl already flag football ... I sometimes wonder how many years we are from tackling being removed if the Pro Bowl gets successfully ratings. Although, I thikn someone did get injured during the Pro Bowl games. DE Myles Garrett
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I think a lot of these rule changes the NFL claims are "safety" are more litigation driven than safety driven. I think the lawsuits over concussions has caused a ripple effect throughout the NFL rules. 

The Pro Bowl already flag football ... I sometimes wonder how many years we are from tackling being removed if the Pro Bowl gets successfully ratings. Although, I thikn someone did get injured during the Pro Bowl games. DE Myles Garrett

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Oh, the NFL has been trying to promote football to be an Olympic sport... but note, they're promoting Flag Football to be the future Olympic sport, not tackle football. So the owners are showing they're willing to go wherever the money is.


Including gass Fields for soccer players but not Football players.
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