Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Are you freaking kidding me? Bernie Sanders wants to take more than half of someone's earnings if said earnings exceed $10 million? If that is true, he's a class A scumbag! The rates being used here are for Married Filing Jointly or Qualifying Widow(er), per this link .
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Earn $12 million? Government gets $6.24 million to spend and YOU get $5.76 million of that $12 million that you earned. Seriously, if this is true, how can any educated, or even half educated person support this? It is morally wrong an economically stupid.

This can't be true, there is just no way. If someone is able to make over $10 million, chances are they are going to splurge and spend it, which means it goes into our economy. I would rather that than trust the Government to spend it. I mean, if they use it to expand business that means more jobs. If they use it to buy another boat, or a 14th (absurd if you ask me) home, that's more jobs as well.
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DakotaT
9 years ago


This can't be true, there is just no way. If someone is able to make over $10 million, chances are they are going to splurge and spend it, which means it goes into our economy. I would rather that than trust the Government to spend it. I mean, if they use it to expand business that means more jobs. If they use it to buy another boat, or a 14th (absurd if you ask me) home, that's more jobs as well.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



This is why you shouldn't even comment on stuff like this, because your understanding of these is very limited. People in this income bracket shelter money off shore to avoid taxation, which is one of the reasons we are in the shit hole we currently find ourselves. These are not good people, they are capitalists, who are the most despicable people on Earth.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

This is why you shouldn't even comment on stuff like this, because your understanding of these is very limited. People in this income bracket shelter money off shore to avoid taxation, which is one of the reasons we are in the shit hole we currently find ourselves. These are not good people, they are capitalists, who are the most despicable people on Earth.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Actually, you should probably shut the hell up telling someone to not comment. Who the hell do you think you are to minimize ones freedom of speech? If you can't handle that some people might not know and inquire, perhaps you should go find a hole to bury yourself in. This is a discussion forum, where people discuss. Either know that, accept it or get the hell out of here. You got it?


As for storing money in off shore accounts, that is something I understand wanting to prevent most definitely. I always believed that was illegal, but shit, when has that ever stopped anyone?
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DakotaT
9 years ago

Actually, you should probably shut the hell up telling someone to not comment. Who the hell do you think you are to minimize ones freedom of speech? If you can't handle that some people might not know and inquire, perhaps you should go find a hole to bury yourself in. This is a discussion forum, where people discuss. Either know that, accept it or get the hell out of here. You got it?


As for storing money in off shore accounts, that is something I understand wanting to prevent most definitely. I always believed that was illegal, but shit, when has that ever stopped anyone?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Please, I'm so sick of arguing with people who can't look at the entire picture, just their vulgar right wing viewpoints.

Yeah, you're right Zero, lets just let the wealthy keep ruining this world. 🙄
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Please, I'm so sick of arguing with people who can't look at the entire picture, just their vulgar right wing viewpoints.

Yeah, you're right Zero, lets just let the wealthy keep ruining this world. 🙄

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



You can bring up informal points without being a self righteous asshole. Contribute knowledge, not douchebagery. We have a plethora of that in this world already. We need people are willing to inform, educate and be decent human's. Be decent. You'll sleep better at night.

You mentioned off-shore accounts. That is something I had not considered. How can we prevent that from happening? My high level view was expressed above and you've widened it. Why? Because I was open minded enough to do so. You should reward that openness with kindness, not being a prick because being a prick makes people defensive and close minded.

Other than off-shore accounts, why else do you believe it is worthwhile to tax someone over half their earnings?
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DakotaT
9 years ago

You can bring up informal points without being a self righteous asshole. Contribute knowledge, not douchebagery. We have a plethora of that in this world already. We need people are willing to inform, educate and be decent human's. Be decent. You'll sleep better at night.

You mentioned off-shore accounts. That is something I had not considered. How can we prevent that from happening? My high level view was expressed above and you've widened it. Why? Because I was open minded enough to do so. You should reward that openness with kindness, not being a prick because being a prick makes people defensive and close minded.

Other than off-shore accounts, why else do you believe it is worthwhile to tax someone over half their earnings?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



No, I'm going to continue to be a condescending asshole on these issues because the people that have been commenting on these issues are fucking retards and I'm not apologizing for anything.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjHnrrdyL7LAhUCWSYKHbIVBZ0QFggkMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fas.org%2Fsgp%2Fcrs%2Fmisc%2FR40623.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFWP4ggdB3gEeem9tAbh2EM0LzYlQ&sig2=I7FxBwmiJe7YGUcXc_d_kQ 


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Rockmolder
9 years ago

Are you freaking kidding me? Bernie Sanders wants to take more than half of someone's earnings if said earnings exceed $10 million? If that is true, he's a class A scumbag! The rates being used here are for Married Filing Jointly or Qualifying Widow(er):

, per this link .
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Earn $12 million? Government gets $6.24 million to spend and YOU get $5.76 million of that $12 million that you earned. Seriously, if this is true, how can any educated, or even half educated person support this? It is morally wrong an economically stupid.

This can't be true, there is just no way. If someone is able to make over $10 million, chances are they are going to splurge and spend it, which means it goes into our economy. I would rather that than trust the Government to spend it. I mean, if they use it to expand business that means more jobs. If they use it to buy another boat, or a 14th (absurd if you ask me) home, that's more jobs as well.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I can't imagine it working like that, though. Every dollar you make upwards of $10 million being taxed by 52% and every dollar you make between $2 and 10$ million being taxed by 48%, et cetera, seems like a more likely way that model would be implemented.

The url doesn't lead anywhere, though, so I'm not sure.

Anyway, that would net the government $5.7 million and you $6.3. I'm not well-informed on the American tax system, but I imagine you can take some tax exempts from that, as well.

All in all, that doesn't sound that crazy to me.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I can't imagine it working like that, though. Every dollar you make upwards of $10 million being taxed by 52% and every dollar you make between $2 and 10$ million being taxed by 48%, et cetera, seems like a more likely way that model would be implemented.

The url doesn't lead anywhere, though, so I'm not sure.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



It leads to the same exact spot that it did when posted, the IRS website showing the tax rates. 🤷 Where are you getting that every dollar up to ten million? I said, and the graphic shows when you earn more than ten million, that is when you get taxed 52%.

DakotaT mentions off-shore accounts, I am sure there a plethora other reasons to validate it. Not to mention there is a very small fraction that I believe would fall into that category. When looking at it on the surface, any time you pay the Government a larger share than you take home ... I just feel that's wrong.


Anyway, that would net the government $5.7 million and you $6.3. I'm not well-informed on the American tax system, but I imagine you can take some tax exempts from that, as well.



That's not how math works though. 52% tax is more than the 48% you would bring home, therefore the numbers would be $5.7 million for YOU and $6.3 million for the Government. Unless I am missing something mathematically, which we all know could very well be the case! lol
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
You can always spot those who are insecure because they need to knock others down to feel better about who they are when in fact they could be speaking positive with more ease. Quite sickening and Donald Trump is showing to be one that just knocks people down, and politically-wise says what the problems are and doesn't have much solution to said problems. I don't know a whole lot about Ben Carson, but I was surpised he publicly endorsed Trump.











No, I'm going to continue to be a condescending asshole on these issues because the people that have been commenting on these issues are fucking retards and I'm not apologizing for anything.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Pretty much sums up the character, actually, lack of character, that you have as well as the type of person you are. We need more people who are willing to help others rather than just bark about stupidity of people. It's about as beneficial as studying for an exam by chewing bubble gum.
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Wade
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9 years ago

This is why you shouldn't even comment on stuff like this, because your understanding of these is very limited. People in this income bracket shelter money off shore to avoid taxation, which is one of the reasons we are in the shit hole we currently find ourselves. These are not good people, they are capitalists, who are the most despicable people on Earth.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



And if you increase their tax rate, they will move even more offshore.


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