gotarace
9 years ago
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-james-jones-bj-raji-casey-hayward-move-on-012016 

This is one mans view of some of the problems plaguing the Packers. I really think you have to add tight end into the mix and a more complete evaluation of the O-line. Also coaching need further change as Mike McCarthy is only as good as the people he surrounds himself with. I think the two released were scapegoats and more glaring problems on the staff need to be addressed.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-james-jones-bj-raji-casey-hayward-move-on-012016

This is one mans view of some of the problems plaguing the Packers. I really think you have to add tight end into the mix and a more complete evaluation of the O-line. Also coaching need further change as Mike McCarthy is only as good as the people he surrounds himswaluable to the 90 man preseason roster.

Originally Posted by: gotarace 



I'd consider bringing Jones back, unless you have someone on the 90 man preseason roster that is more important in some way. You never quite know what injuries will strike. They did this past year.

As for Raji and Hayward, I'd bring them both back. I don't know why people are down on Hayward. I can see why people are down on Raji, I just disagree with them. I wouldn't overpay of course, and that's the key. What are they worth?

I like Perry too. As for Barclay, I would not overspend. Tretter can apparently back up both T positions. Richardson's career is over due to his repeated neck injury, and Quarless probably won't be back due to age and firearm habits. Well, and mediocrity.
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blueleopard
9 years ago
If James Jones wants to be a Packer, he needs to bulk up and learn how to block full-time because it would be as a TE.

Assuming Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, and Ty Montgomery all get back healthy -- the Packers offense will more than likely become a strength next season. Abbrederis and Janis are also both still under contract and look to finally see the field. If the offensive line stays healthy, maybe we might even go back to some of that 5WR fun we had a few years ago.

I say they keep B.J. Raji. Aside from perhaps Mike Pennel, no other interior lineman did much. Raji is the only one athletic enough to stay on the field should Capers go for subpackages to have more speed at the back end.

Hayward would be nice to keep, but if he demands anything more than what the Packers initially offer him, he's gone especially if Micah Hyde stays on the roster. Randall looks like he's ready to take the next step, Rollins hasn't actually done anything boneheaded, and Gunter needs to see the field more. None of these things happen if Hayward stays, but hey -- you can never have enough corners.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
The only one of the 7 I'd be remotely interested in keeping is Raji and that on another 1 year, or 2 year prove it deal with escalators. Those big guys are hard to find. Raji isn't terrible and can be good when he really wants to which isn't close to often enough.

I have no real issue with Hayward...loved him as a rookie. He will be too costly with other players who can do his job for much less already on the roster.

Perry and Neal is an interesting one. I don't care if either return. I would think Perry would be the more desired of the two due to age but because of that and his more natural position being 4-3 end, I think he'll get a nice offer from someone we can't match causing us to panic and resign Neal because we can't draft an OLB to save our lives. Oh, and how could I forget...Datone Jones is moving out there so do we really need 3 guys who can't really play the position? I think Datone's move out there is a signal both guys might be done in Green Bay.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Mostly I wouldn't mind any of them coming back, as long as the price is right. I'm not paying Raji 8mil a year but he is well work 2 or 3. I would bring both Jones and Hayward back on base contracts with good performance escalators. James Jones if he was the #3 on this team with Nelson and Cobb he is still good for 600yard and 5-10TDs. If he would produce in that range I would gladly boost his pay a couple million.

Make the youth earn their positions.
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DakotaT
9 years ago
The problem in this forum is that there are people that actually think we should have James "unhitch the plow" Jones back in camp next season. If we actually need him again next year, I'm sure we'll be able to call him at home.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

The problem in this forum is that there are people that actually think we should have James "unhitch the plow" Jones back in camp next season. If we actually need him again next year, I'm sure we'll be able to call him at home.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I wouldn't bet the farm that Jones wouldn't find a home in FA this offseason. Signing him for a minimum contract with performance escalators is a zero risk for the team.
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porky88
9 years ago
I don't see anyone worth going out of your way to re-sign. If you can get Nick Perry or Casey Heyward back at the right price, then I'm all for that. However, I'd be much more inclined to see the Packers actually bring in some outside free agents. For example, if the choice is re-signing Nick Perry because he's homegrown or giving a little extra cash to Coby Fleener, then the latter is clearly the preferred option.
nerdmann
9 years ago

I don't see anyone worth going out of your way to re-sign. If you can get Nick Perry or Casey Heyward back at the right price, then I'm all for that. However, I'd be much more inclined to see the Packers actually bring in some outside free agents. For example, if the choice is re-signing Nick Perry because he's homegrown or giving a little extra cash to Coby Fleener, then the latter is clearly the preferred option.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I'd bring Perry back with health incentives if he wants to stay in a 3-4. However I strongly suspect he wants to be a 4-3 end.
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sschind
9 years ago
James Jones would leave a lot to be desired as any team's #1 WR. The thing is he wouldn't be counted on to be the teams #1 WR. He'd be #3 at best, maybe #2 on some teams. Right now I think he is a better WR than Adams, Abby and Janis but I think they will stick around because I do expect them to improve and they are younger and have value elsewhere. I do expect they will move on from him but I don't see what a training camp little to no guaranteed money contract would hurt just to have him around. I do think JJ should be playing in the NFL somewhere next year.
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