Chmura says players must fear head coach, Packers do not· Page 3

voiceofreason
Member

9 years ago

As any coach. But I do believe the teams record under McCarthy is more due to players than his coaching. Having Favre to begin, than Rodgers, with Driver, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, and Cobb makes offensive coaching pretty easy. We are seeing what happens with his offense as the depth deteriorates. I would bet any number of coaches could produce equally with that amount of offensive talent.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I bet they couldn't. The world will never know. If we fire a head coach after his 8th playoff appearance in 10 years I don't see that as setting a realistic set of expectations for a new head coach.

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TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#22

I bet they couldn't. The world will never know. If we fire a head coach after his 8th playoff appearance in 10 years I don't see that as setting a realistic set of expectations for a new head coach.

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason

But I do think sometimes you have to do what you have to do with the coach. The Eagles got rid of Andy Reid even though he was pretty consistent with getting them in the playoffs. He also went through some personal issues which probably didn't help, but so has MM. Andy is still a great coach as we see with the Chiefs success, but nobody could argue that he hadn't lost his team in Philly and he needed to move on for both himself and the team.

voiceofreason
Member

9 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

Reid is actually a very good comparison. Great sustained success over many years but could never win the big one. He got ran out of town because of a notoriously whiny fan base, so they could bring in Chip Kelly who was going to revolutionize the NFL. Kelly was reasonably successful for 2 years with Reid's team and was then given complete control for his third year. He gutted the roster and made damn sure the players "feared" him. Don't know if you follow NFL news, but Kelly was shitcanned today with a game left in the regular season. They are now facing a total rebuild.

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

9 years ago

#24

Philly will most likely get some very high draft choices in the coming years! 🤣 Maybe they'd like to make some trades. Wonder where Chip ends up, it's going to be hard to find a better gig than Oregon with all the money Knight/Nike threw at them.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#25

In every book I've read about the Lombardi era, to a man, every player has said that they feared and respected Lombardi.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

I watched the 1966 America's Game edition on the Super Bowl I Packers team and the only player who didn't fear Lombardi was Jim Taylor. The only one who would stand up to Lombardi was Bart Starr, but it was clearly stated that Bart was respectful when doing so.

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