Zero2Cool
8 years ago

We're turning a 2 second slow motion lip reading session, half of which is blocked by Aaron Rodgers walking across the screen, into some confirmation that either Lang is grumpy all the way to the supporting evidence for Barfarn's argument that Aaron Rodgers is a cancer that may well result in this team in the toilet in 12 months....FROM A 2 SECOND LIP READING.

Holy f'n shit people. If we took every 2 second lip reading of every player in a game as literally as we are with this, my God, you'd think 1265 would have literally spontaneously combusted by now.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Whoa, easy there. It's not a huge deal if Lang was upset with Rodgers over that one play. It doesn't mean there is some huge rift or anything. It's a simple question that was asked. No reason to go flying off the handle.

You're right that we can't surmise an entire assumption of an organization predicated on two seconds of lip-reading. No one worth their time is saying as such.

Packers lose five of 15 games and everyone freaks out!!!
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Barfarn
8 years ago

We're turning a 2 second slow motion lip reading session, half of which is blocked by Aaron Rodgers walking across the screen, into some confirmation that either Lang is grumpy all the way to the supporting evidence for Barfarn's argument that Aaron Rodgers is a cancer that may well result in this team in the toilet in 12 months....FROM A 2 SECOND LIP READING.

Holy f'n shit people. If we took every 2 second lip reading of every player in a game as literally as we are with this, my God, you'd think 1265 would have literally spontaneously combusted by now.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



This doesn't come from a 2 second lip reading; dont be hysterical.

It comes from, now listen carefully, not how Aaron Rodgers has played; but from his consistent REFUSAL to play within the offense since Denver! Ya see, we could be 15-0 and I'd be seeing him not execute within the offense and I'd be pissed. I'd be pissed because I know, we wont win 3 in a row in POs unless every cylinder is clicking.

It's not from Aaron Rodgers saying once that he was scared and missed a wide open Cobb; one time he gave insight into his thinking and then; if you're paying attention throughout all the games [not just on one last play that caused the loss] He is missing open receivers at an alarming rate. So I look at separation last year and I see no difference at all..NONE! Last year guys with a half step were open;this year same guy, same half step, same route now the guy is covered, LOL. You realize something much much deeper is going on here, it's not a bad game, it's not a bad stretch.

Rodgers, and this is not based on the outcome of his plays but on an evaluation of his performance within the scheme: has lost the ability to react to a blitz; he has lost his ability to go through his progressions; he's lost his ability to execute plays worked on over and over again in practice [he used to be very good at this, that's why we scored so much in 1st Q].

I just listened to AR's press conference. What an asshole! He was the worst player on the field in AZ and he's talking about how "WE" need to get better; the OL needs to do this..The WRs could get some separation [anyone who says this simply doesn't understand the game-they're just lemmings quoting what the announcers say-it's an opinionated opinion that is simply wrong and hasn't a single shred of basis in fact, outside of that from time to time every team has their receivers covered] what a egocentric tool!

Again a real leader of men; a man of real character; stands up and says, "I have to play better!" You never ever ever EVER publicly throw your teammates under the bus; even when it is their fault. If Aaron Rodgers throws a teammate under the bus deservedly that is a bad leader; if it's Rodgers that screwed up and he's throwing the teammate under the bus; Aaron Rodgers is just an asshole.
musccy
8 years ago
I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is immune from criticism. I too have hated his body language, seen the errant throws, and known he's not passing to guys as covered...but it's a 2 way street.

Adams' hands getting "nutmeged" by the football in the endzone, Abby dropping a ball in his hands, Janis running in circles looking for a ball in the air...AR can't trust these guys to catch what he throws at them.

These guys SHOULD be called out in the pressers for their horrendous play.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Adams' hands getting "nutmeged" by the football in the endzone, Abby dropping a ball in his hands, Janis running in circles looking for a ball in the air...AR can't trust these guys to catch what he throws at them.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Then he should move out of the pocket and run to move the chains. 🤣
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Barfarn
8 years ago

I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is immune from criticism. I too have hated his body language, seen the errant throws, and known he's not passing to guys as covered...but it's a 2 way street.

Adams' hands getting "nutmeged" by the football in the endzone, Abby dropping a ball in his hands, Janis running in circles looking for a ball in the air...AR can't trust these guys to catch what he throws at them.

These guys SHOULD be called out in the pressers for their horrendous play.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Yes, the receivers are not he best; but they never have been. Jennings, Driver, Finley and it appears Cobb not great; they just had good stats due to great QB play. A dropped pass or bad route explains why a drive stalled or a FG was kicked; but does not explain total and complete SUCK.

The ONLY time guys should be called out is if its about attitude and if called out not by another player...NEVER!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
I think we are seeing that WR can make a QB great just as easily as a QB can make a WR. When James Jones is your 3rd or 4th best option it is a lot easier than when he is your first or second.

So much credit is given to Rodgers for the SB win. Not enough given to the drafting of Jennings, Jones and Nelson in consecutive years.
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musccy
8 years ago

Yes, the receivers are not he best; but they never have been. Jennings, Driver, Finley and it appears Cobb not great; they just had good stats due to great QB play. A dropped pass or bad route explains why a drive stalled or a FG was kicked; but does not explain total and complete SUCK.

The ONLY time guys should be called out is if its about attitude and if called out not by another player...NEVER!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



The end zone INT, total B.S. missing Adams by 5 yards out of bounds on a simple out in the first quarter...horrendous.fumbles were aided by pathetic protection, but still part his fault.

But we can't downplay the wrs as "just a drive."If you're the OC or Aaron Rodgers who the heck would you trust to throw to this year? Jones and Cobb sort of, but that's about it.
Porforis
8 years ago

The end zone INT, total B.S. missing Adams by 5 yards out of bounds on a simple out in the first quarter...horrendous.fumbles were aided by pathetic protection, but still part his fault.

But we can't downplay the wrs as "just a drive."If you're the OC or Aaron Rodgers who the heck would you trust to throw to this year? Jones and Cobb sort of, but that's about it.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



And in the case of Jones, he's not going to run by anybody. Nice route runner and hands but that's about it. If you can single cover anybody and in many cases with a linebacker, doubling up on Cobb or throwing an extra guy after Rodgers is easy as pie.
nerdmann
8 years ago

The end zone INT, total B.S. missing Adams by 5 yards out of bounds on a simple out in the first quarter...horrendous.fumbles were aided by pathetic protection, but still part his fault.

But we can't downplay the wrs as "just a drive."If you're the OC or Aaron Rodgers who the heck would you trust to throw to this year? Jones and Cobb sort of, but that's about it.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Fact is, these guys have NEVER really "gotten open." Aaron is just unwilling to throw the ball now, and when he does, it's either dropped or it's way off target, most times.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
After listening to the Mike McCarthy post game conference, I don't think T.J. Lang is the only one upset with Aaron Rodgers. First time I recall hearing McCarthy saying that the ball needs to come out and 'we need to stop worrying about the play and execute'. This is most certainly another anthill, but reading between the lines here, it sounds like coach is giving a little criticism on the quarterback. Which is fair since Aaron Rodgers has called out the coach.
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