Big frickin' deal. The team got walloped today and people were pissy, I'm glad they did. If not for this, the whole internet would explode because AR/MM "don't show enough passion."

The offense sucks, that's a big deal. Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy being a little grumpy is not newsworthy.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

Give Edgar Bennett another year or two and he'll be ready.

I'd give Aaron one more year, then trade him. We could get alot for him. We just need to get the next guy ready. If Aaron doesn't want to get with the program, then he needs to go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

It's not showing passion per se. It's just being mentally prepared.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

This isn't mental preparation, well maybe today. Again, 2 west coast trips around Christmas isn't easy.

This season's problems are about personnel. I saw some tweets on the feed to the side of even Ariens commenting on the lack of speed of this WR group. The OL is banged up. Lacy is fat. Aaron Rodgers isn't helping the problem. The only consistent success we've seen with this offense (aside from garbage time) since about KC was the Minny and Dallas game, and even the Dallas game, the passing game was still off.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

Trade a Hall of Fame QB in the prime of his career? I'll give you something, It would definitely be a unique approach. I cannot believe that I am still having to defend Aaron Rodgers to supposedly knowledgeable NFL fans let alone Packer fans. He has been off all season. He is still the most statistically efficient QB in the history of the game and the packers are in the playoffs. 13 of 32 NFL franchises have never won a Superbowl, but we are ready to blow it all up because we haven't won one in 5 years. We still could win the Superbowl this year as unlikely as that seems. But fuck it, lets just blow it up now.

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason 

We've done it before, and it worked out pretty well.

We could probably get more than a 4th rounder for Aaron, no?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Favre was 39 years old when we traded him. He had also "officially retired" and had been waffling on doing so for a few years. We also had Rodgers ready to go on the bench. Rodgers is 32 as of December 2nd and has never so much as hinted at anything other then a desire to win the Packers Superbowl's. If we traded Rodgers I imagine we would get at a minimum multiple first round picks. Still not worth it. How many first round picks are Hall of Famer's, let alone Hall of Fame Quarterbacks? Rodgers is.

Originally Posted by: voiceofreason 

FALSE. Rodgers has also "hinted" that he's no longer willing to get with the program.

TRIVIA QUESTION: how many teams in the history of the NFL have won Superbowls without Aaron Rodgers?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

We've done it before, and it worked out pretty well.

We could probably get more than a 4th rounder for Aaron, no?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

CORRECT!

Again, the analysis is not about what he has done. If that is what it's about then we suit up Starr for Minnesota!!!! The analysis gets easy: it was clear w/ Favre's CONSISTENT mental breakdowns in crunch time, we weren't winning anything with him. So if you want to win, what other choice do you have; you dump him.

It similar to Favre in that both wilfully decided not to play within the scheme of the offense. But one thing is very different: Favre torqued of various guys with his bullshIt and those guys were dealt. But generally, he was a likeable guy, a guy that the young kids wanted to run through a brick wall for.

Rodgers is not liked-he's an asshole! Player respect comes from one thing: his MVP play! Take that away and no one wants to play with him...ya know, because he's just an asshole.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn