packerfanoutwest
9 years ago
I'm sure we all remember their drive in the 3rd quarter, where they ran ball down the Packers throat and scored. There were only 4 plays on that drive and it was Turbin for 6, then McFadden for 29, then Turbin for 22, and finally Turbin straight up the gut, untouched for 7yds, touchdown. Their next drive they started out passing and went 3 and out. The next time they had the ball their plays were run for 5, run for 5, incomplete pass, run for 6, and then on the next play, Clay sacked Cassel, which was the beginning of the end for the visiting team. Their running game was working and they gave up on it for some reason. McCarthy has been known to do that too, he did it Sunday when Lacy was running well, but he tried to get fancy and run Cobb 4 times in a row.
musccy
9 years ago
You're giving the defense looks, not only this week, but in the future. If I'm not mistaken on Starks' TD they faked the toss to Cobb left and swung it to Starks. It's something else to defend against. Additionally, the worst you're doing is putting the ball in a playmakers' hands. Hell, maybe we should try this with cult hero Jeff Janis!
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago

You're giving the defense looks, not only this week, but in the future.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the same logic when they lined up both Cobb+Montgomery in the backfield for a few plays with little fanfare earlier this season (I want to say vs the Rams?): give defenses something to think about in the future. Plus Montgomery is built like a tank and has attributes similar to a RB, so it's not that much of a stretch.

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Porforis
9 years ago
4 times in a row was a bit excessive IMO but 2 or 3 definitely makes the defense play honest. Towards the end of the game they were selling out against Lacey, if they have to worry about the ball going to Cobb then it keeps them honest.
packerfanoutwest
9 years ago
my point was why did Dallas abandon the running game? it was working.
nerdmann
9 years ago

my point was why did Dallas abandon the running game? it was working.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



More importantly, will we be able to stop RBs in the playoffs?
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isocleas2
9 years ago

my point was why did Dallas abandon the running game? it was working.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



I'm guessing it was something to do with the looks the Packers were giving them and the amount of time left in the game to score. When teams are down they can quickly give up the run for the big pass imo. Especially after the last drive in which as you said they easily ran it down the Packers throat in 4 plays, I would bet Capers had dialed up some different packages with more players in the box.
Porforis
9 years ago

More importantly, will we be able to stop RBs in the playoffs?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 





PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

I'm sure we all remember their drive in the 3rd quarter, where they ran ball down the Packers throat and scored. There were only 4 plays on that drive and it was Turbin for 6, then McFadden for 29, then Turbin for 22, and finally Turbin straight up the gut, untouched for 7yds, touchdown. Their next drive they started out passing and went 3 and out. The next time they had the ball their plays were run for 5, run for 5, incomplete pass, run for 6, and then on the next play, Clay sacked Cassel, which was the beginning of the end for the visiting team. Their running game was working and they gave up on it for some reason. McCarthy has been known to do that too, he did it Sunday when Lacy was running well, but he tried to get fancy and run Cobb 4 times in a row.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



They were running the ball over 50% of the time after they scored. What did in their run game was having a short run followed by a penalty putting them in 2nd and 3rd and long and having to punt followed by us scoring and making it 21-7 in the 4th Qtr.
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sschind
9 years ago

I'm sure we all remember their drive in the 3rd quarter, where they ran ball down the Packers throat and scored. There were only 4 plays on that drive and it was Turbin for 6, then McFadden for 29, then Turbin for 22, and finally Turbin straight up the gut, untouched for 7yds, touchdown. Their next drive they started out passing and went 3 and out. The next time they had the ball their plays were run for 5, run for 5, incomplete pass, run for 6, and then on the next play, Clay sacked Cassel, which was the beginning of the end for the visiting team. Their running game was working and they gave up on it for some reason. McCarthy has been known to do that too, he did it Sunday when Lacy was running well, but he tried to get fancy and run Cobb 4 times in a row.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



If you take away the 3 long runs they averaged 3.1 YPC and they gained about half their rushing yards on that one drive. I'm not sure I'd say their running game was working THAT well but you are right, it was doing better than their passing game. The thing is unless you are going to run on every down you have to throw the ball and if you can't complete passes and commit stupid penalties you are going to get some long yardage situations where you have to pass.

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