LOL Ted Thompson gave you 1.35 Million reasons why Tolzein would make those throws.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
And? Colt McCoy makes more than that. Tarvaris Jackson makes more than that. Blaine Gabbert makes more than that. According to Spotrac, there are 49 quarterbacks in the NFL that make more than Tolzien.
It's not sandlot football [hey, everyone go out I'll hit the open man].
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
Straw man.
See, the GB offensive play typically sends receivers in patterns to come open at staggered times-Then QB goes thru a progression: the QB looks receiver #1 if he open he throws, if not he goes to #2 [I can explain this in more detail if you need it]. See for whatever play was called, ST would go threw his PROGRESSIONS and if he refused, like AR, or failed to work through his progressions he simply wouldn't be on the team.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
We know. But by all means continue being a condescending child about it.
In the last few weeks I've charted every one of his snaps in PS over the last 2 years.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
I'll assume by 'PS' you mean preseason. So a little over 100 passing plays.
The guy finds and hits the open man and runs through the progressions as well as Aaron Rodgers can. His anticipation is slightly less, he's not as accurate and cant make some of AR's throws. Oh and BTW, many times he wasn't throwing to #1 receivers.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
Nor was he competing against number one defenses or exotic defensive schemes.
On the JJ INT, you again don't understand the Offense and are just WRONG.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
There was no one near Jones. Why would you put it low and effectively eliminate the chance for YAC?
You're projecting what know and what you see on TV and somehow assume JJ sees what you see. JJ doesn't know if safety is bearing down and has practiced w/ Aaron Rodgers that if the safety is coming the throw goes LOW, between the knee and ankles!
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
It’s not as if Jones ran his route with blind folds on or has zero clue what the coverage is.
JJ doesn't know exactly what Aaron Rodgers sees, so he's ready to catch ball between the #'s and ankles and thinking about who's closer left or right becuse the throw will skew to the side where defender is furthest away. The idea a WR expects a throw like this to the numbers is patently naive.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
So which is it: he expects it low or he has to react to where the quarterback puts the ball based on the coverage?
We see players settle in the soft spot in a zone and get the ball on the numbers all the time. Again, if there is room then why sacrifice the chance for YAC?
And even if Jones expected the ball low, it had to travel 25 plus yards in the air. If that’s not enough time to react to where a ball is going--when stationary with a clear line of sight--then how the hell does he ever adjust to or catch quick slants or button hooks designed to arrive as soon as he turns?
As for the rest keep to your vague generalizations and only consider things that support a silly bias and your idol will be secure.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
Point me to where I’m idol worshipping. I’ve said there have been plenty of things to criticize about his play.
I've provided probably 50 factual examples of Aaron Rodgers doings things he NEVER did before; I mean horrific things and you've provided ZERO rebuttal to that.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
And most people on this forum agree this is the worst they’ve seen him play in a long time. Almost no one is debating that point.
He even admitted he was scared. Again, if the Packers traded Aaron Rodgers for Cutler b4 Denver game, You'd all be screaming TT, YOU ASSHOLE, look what you did. Okay so it's still AR, playing like Cutler, so where's the outrage.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
For all we love to take the piss out of Jay Cutler, he actually is an NFL starting quarterback. Tolzien is not.
Besides, Cutler’s paid $18.1M a year so he must be like a god.
We have one of the worst offenses in the NFL over the last 6 games.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
And everyone on the forum is bemoaning this fact. No one is saying the offense has been good of late.
Sure the OL isn't playing as well as 2014 and running game lacks at times and injuries and Adams/Cobb have had a few drops and blah blah blah.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
Then why did you say the other 10 people on the field are playing at the same level if that’s clearly not the case?
You need to factor in AR's role in these perceived and real deficiencies and how in the past he has managed to minimize the harm of these clunks in destroying the offense [Note: that's why we love him].
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
The quarterback gets too much blame/credit cliché.
All that stuff was occurring for EACH of the last several years.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
This directly contradicts what you conceded above about the offensive line not playing as well as in 2014. It’s also not borne out by objective measures.
And every time these clunks occurred it hurt the offense; but didn't turn it to crap. All the clunks drop the O maybe from #3 to #6 or #10 at worst. It is 100% AR's fault the O has gone from #3 to low 20's.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
But that contradiction is okay because it’s all Aaron’s fault! Is it Aaron’s fault we have had four starters on the line miss time this year? Does the line have nothing to do with giving up more sacks through 12 games than through all of last year? Is it Aaron’s fault Lacy and Starks now have fumbling problems? Is it Aaron’s fault we lead the NFL in drops from weeks 4 through 11 with 23 drops?
Evaluate each of AR's plays in 1st half in Det. to his usual baseline of performance, educate yourself, then get back to me.
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
This grows tiresome. I’ll get back to you when you stop acting like a petulant child.
Born and bred a cheesehead