longtimefan
16 years ago
LOL




118 time stamp is before the photo Trom posted

It shows the right foot's toes are on the ground THEN he starts to fall forward and then that is when the pic Trom posted happens



dirt ?? from right foot


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57 sec mark is a second or so before Troms photo..Which to me clearly looks like the right toes are bent which means toes on ground.


http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80e84f48 



But it does not matter...Kurt Warner blew this game he couldnt get them a score with 30 secs left
twebdonny
16 years ago
What about non-review of the final play?
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
If this game demonstrated anything, it's that NOT throwing interceptions is far more important than throwing touchdowns. Kurt Warner threw 3 TDs to Roethlisberger's 1, but had he not thrown that one goal line INT, the game probably would not have been in doubt going into the 4th quarter.
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PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago

What about non-review of the final play?

"twebdonny" wrote:



IMO, after the replay that the network showed, it was obvious that it was a fumble. So I don't think there was a reason to halt the game. No need for the booth to buzz down.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

If this game demonstrated anything, it's that NOT throwing interceptions is far more important than throwing touchdowns. Kurt Warner threw 3 TDs to Roethlisberger's 1, but had he not thrown that one goal line INT, the game probably would not have been in doubt going into the 4th quarter.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Actually disagree.

I think if the game showed anything, it's twice, Ben R went to the SB, played a worse game than the guy against him, and rode a better, more well-rounded team to victory.

Pittsburg was simply better in every phase of the game. It's miraculous the game was that close. I thought the Steelers would win it by 20 points. I had some people offer to give me 8-10 points and I said "no way."

By the way, watched the replay a bunch of times. It's still inconclusive, so as per the rules, inconclusive = go with what they saw on the field.
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Cheesey
16 years ago

his right foot was caught on his left foot. It wasn't on the ground.

Still TD-worthy catch though.

"tromadz" wrote:



You should have your eyes checked ASAP.

Both Feet came down, his right foot bent at the toes and he held possession all the way through.

"TengoJuego" wrote:



Well that's just wrong.

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I can see how you were confused though. Now show ME a high def picture of the right foot touching the ground and I will gladly say I was mistaken.

"tromadz" wrote:


LT showed the video.......the pic you showed was AFTER his foot had already touched the ground, THEN he was pushed by the defender causing his right foot to come off the ground.
It was the right call.
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Formo
16 years ago

What about non-review of the final play?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



IMO, after the replay that the network showed, it was obvious that it was a fumble. So I don't think there was a reason to halt the game. No need for the booth to buzz down.

"twebdonny" wrote:



Watch them replays again. Looked to me his arm started forward movement before the ball was knocked out.

But even if it WAS a fumble.. Couldn't the booth do a review, JUST to make sure? It's not like the Cards chances were huge to win the game or anything.

No. This game will forever be tainted in my mind. NFL likes big markets. And Goodell is a cawk.
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tromadz
16 years ago

LOL




118 time stamp is before the photo Trom posted

It shows the right foot's toes are on the ground THEN he starts to fall forward and then that is when the pic Trom posted happens



dirt ?? from right foot


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57 sec mark is a second or so before Troms photo..Which to me clearly looks like the right toes are bent which means toes on ground.


http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80e84f48 



But it does not matter...Kurt Warner blew this game he couldnt get them a score with 30 secs left

"longtimefan" wrote:



I know the pic i posted is the later end of the play, but im showing what the feet were doing.

Thanks for the 208X250 sized pic of squintyness. Show me something better(please, show me, I want to end this one way or the other)
PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago

What about non-review of the final play?

"Formo" wrote:



IMO, after the replay that the network showed, it was obvious that it was a fumble. So I don't think there was a reason to halt the game. No need for the booth to buzz down.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Watch them replays again. Looked to me his arm started forward movement before the ball was knocked out.

But even if it WAS a fumble.. Couldn't the booth do a review, JUST to make sure? It's not like the Cards chances were huge to win the game or anything.

No. This game will forever be tainted in my mind. NFL likes big markets. And Goodell is a cawk.

"twebdonny" wrote:



I have watched the replays many times. And it was a fumble. His hand never started forward before the ball was out.

As for replay. The official in the booth, looks at replays to determine if the call was questionable, and whether it requires a replay. Since they didn't even though they replayed a couple others, my guess is that the booth official agreed with the call.

And if the NFL is really so much for big markets, they would have made sure Arizona wasn't in the SB to start with.
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Formo
16 years ago

What about non-review of the final play?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



IMO, after the replay that the network showed, it was obvious that it was a fumble. So I don't think there was a reason to halt the game. No need for the booth to buzz down.

"Formo" wrote:



Watch them replays again. Looked to me his arm started forward movement before the ball was knocked out.

But even if it WAS a fumble.. Couldn't the booth do a review, JUST to make sure? It's not like the Cards chances were huge to win the game or anything.

No. This game will forever be tainted in my mind. NFL likes big markets. And Goodell is a cawk.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I have watched the replays many times. And it was a fumble. His hand never started forward before the ball was out.

As for replay. The official in the booth, looks at replays to determine if the call was questionable, and whether it requires a replay. Since they didn't even though they replayed a couple others, my guess is that the booth official agreed with the call.

And if the NFL is really so much for big markets, they would have made sure Arizona wasn't in the SB to start with.

"twebdonny" wrote:



I just YouTubed it. And even in the horse crap quality, I saw the armband of Warners arm move forward, JUST slightly, before the ball was knocked loose.

Fumble or not, right call or not, it SHOULD have been reviewed. That play was TOO close to just let slide. You are INSANE to say they looked at the replay and deemed it a 'good' call.

I've seen officials review OBVIOUS plays at the end of close games, just to be sure. That play was WAY to close to NOT review it.

It's good business that the NFL is for big markets. Duh. Arizona made it to the Super Bowl because they BEAT 3 other teams in the playoffs. I'm not saying every game is rigged. But to say that the NFL doesn't have a preference of who THEY want to win big games like this, I think is absurd. Whether or not they have a HAND in the outcomes, I can't prove. But judging from the awesome refereeing, I have my reservations.
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