luigis
9 years ago

Well here's the thing. Go Waaay back to OTA. They decided to dumb down the Offensive/Defensive play calls and verbiage to play "faster" and so it would be easier for rookies to pick things up.

Great. Except in the NFL about week 6 everyone gets in the flow and the learning curve is gone. That simplified dumbed down offense, with 3 wide and a back... inverted wishbone and about 2 other formations isn't a mystery anymore.

What has happened isn't that deep really. The player that took the top off the defense is out for the season. The other WR are just not great at beating press or timing routes ( see Janis and Abby) so the DC squats on your WR or jams them hard. Second your OL is beat up... Both OT have serious knee issues. Both OG have bad backs and your C has had more typical season year 2 than last year.

That means pass pro is crap and Run blocking is hot/cold. Best depth Barclay 😞

Lacy is banged up and 20 pounds too heavy ..Starks looks great as a change of pace back, sucks as a starter. TE's ..... 😲

So with all that we wonder why #12 is off ? Sometimes a HC and staff get in a funk but you add in all the above issues and well all you really can do is tell your guys to strap it on and sling it. Have fun and see what happens. [twocents]

Oh almost forgot... Sitton and Lang are outspoken sometimes. I am not reading a lot into that comment unless it happens a second time.

Originally Posted by: 68md 



Very good post.
You make me think the biggest problem of the offense is the oversimplification, it seems we have like what? 10-12 plays?
Not a long time ago it was a nightmare to defend against the Packers as we used a myriad of different formations and plays and we could run for 200 yards if needed to completely destroy a defense.
What have we done?


Luis
DoddPower
9 years ago

Very good post.
You make me think the biggest problem of the offense is the oversimplification, it seems we have like what? 10-12 plays?
Not a long time ago it was a nightmare to defend against the Packers as we used a myriad of different formations and plays and we could run for 200 yards if needed to completely destroy a defense.
What have we done?

Originally Posted by: luigis 



I really don't think the schemes or play calling are much different at all, at least on offense. The players just aren't playing as well and the talent level isn't as high without Nelson.

I don't remember hearing anything about simplifying things on offense. That was just a defensive thing that Dom Capers initiated . The difference in years past has been the talent level was much greater. Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Cobb, and Finley? Going five wide. That's huge difference compared to what the Packers have now. The offense doesn't have to be as creative with that much talent on offense. Talent is better than schemes, but schemes become much more important with less talent.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

That being said, I'm normally one to point out the last time they won the Super Bowl it was because they had a chip on their shoulder, feeling underrated... and pointed out, losing the division or almost missing the playoffs, might be able to put that chip back on that shoulder... which is what put it there in 2010.... they had to win both their final games just to get into the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Someone say chippy?


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DoddPower
9 years ago

Someone say chippy?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



As I and many others have said, the Packers are still in a great position. They control their own destiny. They have plenty of time to turn things around. The Packers have still won twice as many games as they have lost. But will the Packers rebound? They don't have the most talented roster or coaching staff right now, that's for sure.
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