dyeah_gb
9 years ago
I think it is obvious at this point that the offense is much worse with MM not calling the plays. I have to eat my words because I was one of the fans calling for MM to give up play calling for him to relinquish his play calling duties during the game. What does this now say about Clements that packers offense is so bad? What purpose does he serve on this team?

In a perfect world, I would rather that MM got demoted to offensive coordinator and find a head coach that can actually lead. I don't mean this as an emotional response to the recent losses either. What MM has done to help in the development of two hall of fame qbs is amazing. I just don't think he has what it takes as a leader to make this team consistently a winner and the NFCC game last year was the last straw. It is sad that packer players appear to need motivation to bring 100% but that appears to be the case.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I think it is obvious at this point that the offense is much worse with Mike McCarthy not calling the plays. I have to eat my words because I was one of the fans calling for Mike McCarthy to give up play calling for him to relinquish his play calling duties during the game. What does this now say about Clements that packers offense is so bad? What purpose does he serve on this team?

In a perfect world, I would rather that Mike McCarthy got demoted to offensive coordinator and find a head coach that can actually lead. I don't mean this as an emotional response to the recent losses either. What Mike McCarthy has done to help in the development of two hall of fame qbs is amazing. I just don't think he has what it takes as a leader to make this team consistently a winner and the NFCC game last year was the last straw. It is sad that packer players appear to need motivation to bring 100% but that appears to be the case.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Mike is a great Xs and Os guy. He has no idea how to have a team mentally or emotionally ready to play football.

The thing about moving Clements to play caller was supposed to help with that, but it has only made it worse. What is more, my fears about Clements being Aaron's Yes-Man appear to be well founded.

What happened today is just about the worst thing that could have possibly happened.
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luigis
9 years ago

What happened today is just about the worst thing that could have possibly happened.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If nothing happens after today then that would be even worst.

I want to believe this will lead to some important changes.
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The_Green_Ninja
9 years ago
I think so because getting rid of Clements will help the Packers WR beat their one-on-ones.

Wait.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I think so because getting rid of Clements will help the Packers WR beat their one-on-ones.

Wait.

Originally Posted by: The_Green_Ninja 



First of all, this staff doesn't scheme to get guys open. They scheme for match ups. Second of all, there were plenty of instances of guys being open.


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
shield4life
9 years ago
The reason why our WR's are not able to get open is because our o-line can't seem to be picking up on the blitz. Either the ball is thrown way to early or Rodgers is in a pressure either ways throw will never be perfect. Aside that the time that our o-line pick ups the blitz and keeps them away from Rodgers, he seems to keep it too long.

They are just out of sync, I'm glad next week they playing away. I expect them coming out big next week.
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K_Buz
9 years ago

The reason why our WR's are not able to get open is because our o-line can't seem to be picking up on the blitz. Either the ball is thrown way to early or Rodgers is in a pressure either ways throw will never be perfect. Aside that the time that our o-line pick ups the blitz and keeps them away from Rodgers, he seems to keep it too long.

They are just out of sync, I'm glad next week they playing away. I expect them coming out big next week.

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



Why? What in the last three or four weeks leads you to that expectation?
gotarace
9 years ago
I don't think Clements should be fired....But I think he should be laid-off while were hiring!!!
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go.pack.go.
9 years ago
I'm afraid to say that we will come out big next week; that's what I said about this week.
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beast
9 years ago

I don't think Clements should be fired, because I don't think him being on the team has been the problem... nearly as much as the execution from the players.

Now maybe MM needs to have a bigger role on offense, and maybe Rodgers needs to hear Mike's smooth calming voice in his headset (or something else of Rodgers needs to change), but I don't think hiring or firing Clements directly effects that...


I think someone positively getting into the offensive players heads would be better than anyone getting fired.

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