greengold
9 years ago
Of course McGinn needs to get his shots in. Dredging up Jolly and Lyerla in addition to Guion as "proof" that the Packers are actively seeking out criminals to put on the field. [horseow]

The Packers cultivate a holier than thou image, and their followers eat it up. The truth is, the Packers are like just about every other NFL franchise when it comes to looking the other way and hoping for the best when it comes to procuring problem players.

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steveishere
9 years ago
This seems really unprofessional to me as it reads as a butthurt "payback" article because of McCarthys garbage comment. I guess the journal sentinel is running out of actual football content to go over so they've got to dig up and make a big deal out of Colt Lyerla of all things.

It's like I said before, this stuff maybe had some relevance about 4 months ago but bringing it up now out of nowhere when it has nothing to do with anything currently happening with the team just looks desperate and unprofessional.
buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
I don't think you will find a team that has nithung but boy scouts on their entire roster.

Bye week and Mcguin and company had their feelings hurt because McCarthy called the former article what it was.

No new news in this article, just a writer trying to up his numbers with negative remarks.
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Bigbyfan
9 years ago
Not even gonna give those guys the courtesy of a "click" or page visit for this.
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Barfarn
9 years ago
First, just because Lily Cohen pissed down his leg when Davis approached doesn't mean Davis was intimidating; it just means Cohen is a weasal little pissant w/ a guilty conscience.

This is really pissing me off: See 1265 and I know the guy who filed the civil suit, One Martius Develle Holland-He is a ba'a'a'a'ad dude. And Cohen is a lazy inept moron or he knew this stuff and buried it to make Guion look bad. And that is why charges were never filed. The story below talks of how Holland got off a gun charge through intimidation that was gonna send him away for a while. But, I think they're gonna get him this time. A summons was returned on October 5, 2015 for another Assault w/ firearm and Possession of a firearm by a convicted felon-He's going away on this one! If he gets any of Letroy's $$ [Impossible], he'll be spending it at the commissary.

The scum attorney for this scum in the complaint in Count 2 for battery stated that "Holland consented to any contact by the Guion." 😂 What a dope. If the contact was consensual it becomes a legal impossibility that a battery occurred; the Complaint also referred to a Holland as the counter-plaintiff and failed to meet the elements for Counts a 1 and 3 for Assault and cyber stalking. It's like some clown watched 3 episodes of people's court; copied a complaint from the internet and used a word processor to write over various words to tailor it to the subject circumstance; but they were hurried and missed a bunch of things that should have been overwritten and of course tehre was no proof-read.

https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/personCaseSearch?q1=vBBhuYdpRcykfxOL7vzX4g 

here's one story:

The trial of a Macclenny man with a lengthy criminal record for pointing a pistol at another man during a street fight in June, 2012 ended abruptly earlier this month when the victim took the stand and refused to testify against him.
The prosecution, which had already dropped a count of firing a weapon in public against Martius D. Holland, had little choice but to dismiss the remaining two charges against him, aggravated assault with a firearm and possession of a firearm
by a convicted felon.
Ricky Tisdale, 31, also of Macclenny, was sworn in February 10 as the state’s chief witness
and promptly declared several times in response to questioning “I don’t want nothin’
to do with this case,” according to witnesses in the courtroom at the time. Circuit Judge William Davis, sitting in for Judge Mark Moseley, said he had never seen a situation like that
before.
The judge later advised the witness, who also has an extensive criminal record, of the penalties for contempt of court for refusing to testify, though he was not charged with that offense.
After speaking outside the courtroom with several other witnesses, Assistant State Attorney Loralie Papel told the court with the six-member jury out of the room that the prosecution was dropping the remaining charges.
That second offense under Florida Law is a so-called “10-20-life” referring to the minimum,
mandatory sentences for having a firearm while committing a forcible felony.
Based on statements that day, it is surmised that Mr. Holland, who was out on bond pending trial, threatened Mr. Tisdale and others with recrimination if they testified.
Mr. Holland, 31, whose lengthy arrest record is rife with drug-related offenses, including one in 2009 that resulted in a prison sentence, was most recently taken into custody
on February 4 on a warrant for sale and possession of cocaine and marijuana in south Macclenny. He allegedly sold the drugs to a buyer cooperating with the sheriff’s department.
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
I don't get the comparison between Guion & Lyerla and Jolly. With the latter two, everyone knew what they had done and they both paid the price in terms of suspensions, legal action and being away from the sport (I can only imagine Jolly's feelings watching his team win the Super Bowl without him*) before they (re)joined the team. While Lyerla was sketchy, it was well known that he needed a strong figure and a supportive environment to corral him in, something that was lacking after Kelley went to the Eagles. McGinn tries to play a sleight of hand on the mind by pointing out his DUI a week after being cut, as if it was inevitable. That said, I'm not gonna bury my head in the sand with Lyerla, putting a guy like him in Wisconsin and it's drinking culture and general lack of anything to do for a season would have been a risk that required constant attention. But it didn't happen so why is he making a big deal about it?

*Can you imagine Jolly, Pickett, a motivated BJ, Cullen Jenkins that year? That would have been a sick dline.
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steveishere
9 years ago

I don't get the comparison between Guion & Lyerla and Jolly. With the latter two, everyone knew what they had done and they both paid the price in terms of suspensions, legal action and being away from the sport (I can only imagine Jolly's feelings watching his team win the Super Bowl without him*) before they (re)joined the team. While Lyerla was sketchy, it was well known that he needed a strong figure and a supportive environment to corral him in, something that was lacking after Kelley went to the Eagles. McGinn tries to play a sleight of hand on the mind by pointing out his DUI a week after being cut, as if it was inevitable. That said, I'm not gonna bury my head in the sand with Lyerla, putting a guy like him in Wisconsin and it's drinking culture and general lack of anything to do for a season would have been a risk that required constant attention. But it didn't happen so why is he making a big deal about it?

*Can you imagine Jolly, Pickett, a motivated BJ, Cullen Jenkins that year? That would have been a sick dline.

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because McCarthy made his buddy sad
nerdmann
9 years ago
FAct is, this team is a supportive environment for troubled players. Look at Charles Woodson. He was viewed as a malcontent before he came here. We ressurrected his career and he became a DPOY and a venerated team leader. Hell, he's a sure fire HoFer now.

Jolly served his suspension and came back for one season. He was contrite. The Packers in fairness gave him a second chance.

Lyerla was a trouble player and the Packers gave him a chance. He F'd that chance up and was released. He was not brought back despite a dearth of playmakers at his position.

This is just some bullshit tit for tat between the Urinal and the franchise. We all know Ted won't give an inch if he thinks he's in the right. Pressuring him with tabloid BS is not gonna have the desired result.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Packers aren't as bad as most teams and no team is full of choir boys.

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steveishere
9 years ago

Packers aren't as bad as most teams and no team is full of choir boys.

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I'd like to see where someone from the Packers ever said they wouldn't give a chance to anyone with a blemish in their past or that they are only interested in choir boys.
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