Jones/Cobb vs Nelson/Cobb through five

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Comparing the collective numbers through the first five games for James Jones, Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson.

2014 Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb
Receptions: 58
Yards: 798
TD's: 10
Record: 3 - 2

2015 James Jones and Randall Cobb
Receptions: 47
Yards: 706
TD's: 9
Record: 5 - 0

Of course the Win/Loss has little to do here and I was just curious so I tossed it in there. Only 11 receptions and less than 100 yards and 1 touchdown difference so far this season. James Jones has been a nice addition, but once Davante Adams is close to 100% again, Jones targets will drop and the difference between the any top two WR will fall dramatically in comparison.

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musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

The Packers didn't have great distribution of the ball after those two last year so I don't know that two dominating the stats categories is necessarily a great thing. Adams' injury also throws in a likely asterisk.

I'm not sure if these stats say anything meaningful.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

I wouldn't expect Jones targets to decrease much with Adams returning, he hasn't proven himself as more than a 3rd option. Jones will be on the field for his blocking ability and because Rodgers trusts him.

the stats difference is can be seen in the increase in TE and 3rd WR performance.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: musccy

They aren't stat whoring as much. Could be the loss of Nelson, could just be Clements. But it's probably the loss of Nelson.

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cheeseheads123
Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Jones doesn't see too many targets to begin with so I dont think he will be affected too much from Adams returning.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

9 years ago

i dont get this stat whore thing

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luigis
Member

9 years ago

I went to football outsiders to compare the pass defense of the teams we plated so far and the pass defense of the first 5 teams we played in 2014.

2014:
Seattle (3)
Jets (24)
Detroit (8)
Chicago (29)
Minnesota (19)

2015:
Chicago (29)
Seattle (15)
Kansas City (30)
San Francisco (28)
Saint Louis (9)

It seems we have seen softer defenses this year. That's probably why Jones/Cobb have similar stats as Nelson/Cobb the previous year.

The next games:

San Diego (19)
Bye
@Denver (1)
@Carolina (3)
Detroit (24)

If we extrapolate what happened last season with Buffalo we are probably going to lose against the Broncos and the Panthers(?) and win against the Chargers and Lions to be 7-2.

The schedule gets really soft after Denver and Carolina, going 14-2 is certainly possible for the #1 or #2 seed, it will be very hard to beat Atlanta for #1 because Atlanta has a ridiculous schedule.

Luis

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Did you get the team passing yardage at the game matchup or end of season? If you took the end of season stats for 2014, that's really not telling much. Even less than what I posted, lol.

Edit, just checked quick and yeah, you didn't even get the rankings at the time of the match up. What's that about? 🤨

2014
Seahawks: blah first game of season
Jets: Passing Defense = 1st
Lions: Passing Defense = 9th
Bears: Passing Defense = 23rd
Vikings: Passing Defense = 17th

2015
Bears: blah first game of season
49ers: Passing Defense = 27th
Seahawks: Passing Defense = 23rd
Chiefs: Passing Defense = 23rd
Rams: Passing Defense = 14th

btw, I went to the GameDay Threads archive at PackersHome.com [giddity]

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

i dont get this stat whore thing

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Its a Nerd thing. Don't worry about it. Most of the rest of us don't get it either. Here is a drinking game you can play with Packershome.com. Every time Nerd makes a post that says "stat whoring" or "self shitting" you drink. You won't last long. Thankfully the 5-0 record has limited the "self shitting" comments but he still finds a way to sneak them in.

Dulak
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: luigis

Wow Carolina has the #3 pass d? geez thought they were just a fluke ... be an interesting game vs them. Thought they were done for with what his name kelvin benjamin out for the season ...

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