beast
11 years ago

Being deep at DT and thin at LBer is precisely the reason to play more of a 4-3. Raji, Pickett and Jolly would be perfect DTs, Neal and Jones would be the primary edge rushers while Daniels and Wilson could be either DE/DT. The main difference would be that the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibility.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Simple put the Packers probably aren't going to change their system now.

And they already basically run a 4-2 (which people call a 2-4) where the edge rushers don't typically have any pass coverage responsibity.

Going to a 4-3 would just take the nickel guy off the field and put another non-edge LB on the field (Barrington?) which is a bad idea because the lack of depth at LB.

In a 4-3, I'm not sure the rookies 3-4 OLB could play 4-3 DE nor 4-3 LB. I'm also not sure we want to see Daniels or Wilson playing at 4-3 DE, though they could just as easily plug them in at nickel 4-2 which the Packers already run.

So basically the system isn't going to change.

Though we both agree it might be interesting to see some of the other pass rushing DL join Neal at edge rushing especially when in the 4 man front (which Packers already run and don't need to change to a 4-3 for).


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beast
11 years ago

We do have 4-3 personnel.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



We have a 4-2 personnel, which is partly because they mostly run 4-2 (or have in the past) as they're 2-4 nickel package is basically a 4-2.
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11 years ago
The drop off between Matthews and Perry is pretty big.

Matthews is a huge loss (even if the D did look awesome without him last week). Perry? I'm not so sure. Oh, it hurts to lose a starter and reduce the bodies for rotation, but IMO before his injury he was one of the weaker defensive starters. He probably has more potential yet untapped, but the "yet untapped" can be "doesn't get tapped this year or ever".

Cobb, Matthews -- these are losses of people who have proven they provide things no one else does. Perry? At this point in his career he's, well, who knows. Uninjured he might be Mike Neal quality this year; or he might be Daryn Colledge quality. Who knows?
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Packers still haven't won a Super Bowl since mistakenly letting Daryn Colledge sign elsewhere. Keep that in mind.
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beast
11 years ago

Packers still haven't won a Super Bowl since mistakenly letting Daryn Colledge sign elsewhere. Keep that in mind.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



They also haven't won a Super Bowl since Finley had an injury that put him on the IR list
and Quarless was the starter at TE.

Hey!.... that gives me an idea.... here Finley, Finley, Finley [sarcasm]


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steveishere
11 years ago

Packers still haven't won a Super Bowl since mistakenly letting Daryn Colledge sign elsewhere. Keep that in mind.

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bboystyle (1h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (1h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (1h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (1h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (1h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (1h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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beast (2h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
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bboystyle (3h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
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Zero2Cool (3h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (3h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
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