No, he's not as good as Favre
"bozz_2006" wrote:
Not as good as Favre
was, you mean.
Yes, he needs to improve.
"bozz_2006" wrote:
He does? He was a top-6 quarterback for most of the season. It took Favre several seasons to even come close to the kind of output Rodgers had this season. At least 20 teams would probably kill to have a QB as good as ours was this season. Does he have to be No. 1 in every statistical category to satisfy Packers fans? By that standard, Favre himself would never have been good enough for Green Bay, considering he never once lead the league in passer rating!
Let's lighten up fellas.
"bozz_2006" wrote:
I agree.
Bozz it just pisses me off that alot of posters are basically putting this guy in the hall of fame after one good stats year.
"dhazer" wrote:
Please point out one poster who is putting Rodgers in the Hall of Fame at this point.
all the Rodgers lovers are also Favre haters.
"dhazer" wrote:
I'm a Favre critic, not a Favre hater. I have nothing but admiration for what he did for this team in the first few years of his career. But I don't give him a pass for his faults simply because he had some amazing seasons.
They are pissed that Brett wanted to go play somewhere else.
"dhazer" wrote:
Actually, I was pissed that after retiring as close to the top as he would ever get, he then tried to unretire. I was pissed that he was presumptuous enough to assume the Packers owed it to him to let him return to the team, even after going through most of the offseason with Rodgers as the designated starter. I was pissed that he was presumptuous enough to demand that the team whose fans had worshiped the ground he walked on for the past 16 years release him
without compensation to play for a division rival, a move he himself later admitted was "vindictive."
Yes, I was pissed. Thankfully, we were blessed with a quarterback who more than took away my irritation with Favre -- he made me excited for the future. Therefore, I couldn't care less where Favre plays next season, and as I said in another thread, I hope he does come back.
cmon they are saying Rodgers did no wrong at all this year
"dhazer" wrote:
Name one person who is saying this. We've all been clear in our assertions that Rodgers holds some responsibility for the losses. The point of this thread is that the allegation he has no come-from-behind drives in the 4th quarter is patently false, and that when you look at the statistics, it's obvious more of the responsibility is on the shoulders of the defense and special teams. (Come on, you still haven't addressed my point that in the Carolina game, the Packers' offense held the ball for 16 of the last 19 minutes!).
I simply asked what angle was he going for because he claims he had a 4th quarter comeback but then in the article it also said Rodgers threw a pick to seal the loss.
"dhazer" wrote:
He did have a 4th-quarter comeback. He had two in the Carolina game alone. That was my only point, and it's indisputable.
So i disn't know if the nail in the coffin was that he can't win games at the end or if it was that they were trying to find a way to dismiss that fact.
"dhazer" wrote:
You still haven't addressed my question: What more can you expect your quarterback to do than to hold the ball for 13 minutes of the final quarter, lead the team to a lead twice in that quarter? Yes, you can hope he'll secure a third lead, but is that a
reasonable expectation?
And yes, to a certain extent I am trying to dismiss this argument. Not because what you're saying is factually inaccurate -- it's not -- but because it's irrelevant and a moot point. This has everything to do with Brett Favre adulation and nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers' actual performance on the field. That is blatantly unfair to Rodgers.
Had Favre not established for himself the mythos of the "master of the come-from-behind victory," we wouldn't be having this conversation. That's my point. Rodgers has the unfortunate burden of being Favre's successor, and that is what this is all about.