dhazer
16 years ago
Ok long show me where he had a 4th quarter comeback for a win thats what they mean by 4th quarter comebacks sorry. So it is far from a blatant lie.


And sorry NON yes Rodgers did fail you even showed it, he threw an INT that sealed the game. And Long it wasn't a desperation throw it was plain and simply a shitty pass he didn't have to make. I just hope he shakes off the failures and learns from them or we are in for a long 5 years with him at qb.

Also if you are saying taking a lead in the 4th quarter is a comeback i would love to know how many Elway, Favre, and Montana had in there careers.
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porky88
16 years ago

Score: 31-35 with 1:30 remaining.]

On the ensuing kickoff, Tramon Williams returns the ball to the GB 17. The following play, Rodgers throws an incomplete pass to Jennings. On the next pass, he throws an interception intended for Donald Driver. If you look at the replay, Driver looks completely confused, so there was obviously some sort of miscommunication. It's impossible to know who was at fault here. Either way, he was tightly covered, so it was a risky throw.



It was a poor throw and it was into coverage. Now I'm not saying it's his fault the Packers loss, but he had a chance to lead a comeback and the fact is he didn't.

The best argument for Rodgers is he lead them on a clutch drive against the Bears on Monday Night and the field goal was blocked with like 10 seconds left. That was his game winning drive, but this one was the defense and special teams blowing it to what you can argue a season high.

Once again ignoring the problem Aaron Rodgers has leading the team to a comeback would be a HUGE mistake. It can be fixed, but hopefully the coaches don't choose to ignore it like some fans are.

Overall his first season would earn him a B grade from me and that is great for a first year starter, but it shows he has to improve and the final five minutes of the fourth quarter is where he needs to start in my opinion.
Stevetarded
16 years ago
Thats what their comback stats are based off of, simply taking the lead in the 4th quarter.
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blueleopard
16 years ago
Those are not what comeback stats are composed of.

In the last 10 minutes of the 4th quarter alone, the lead CHANGED 3 TIMES. Rodgers was responsible for that.

So why should he get the blame when Carolina scores in like three plays? Steve Smith catches a 54-yard pass and it's Rodgers' fault? Okay.

He throws a pick. Fine. But I bet if you put Favre in the same situation, he'd throw three.
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dfosterf
16 years ago



He throws a pick. Fine. But I bet if you put Favre in the same situation, he'd throw three.

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I think there's a rule somewhere authorizing no more than one interception per play.




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wils0646
16 years ago

Ok long show me where he had a 4th quarter comeback for a win thats what they mean by 4th quarter comebacks sorry. So it is far from a blatant lie.

"dhazer" wrote:



He's had 2 (both Detroit games). Sorry if you don't check the facts before showing your blind hate.

He won both of those games in the 4th quarter. They were either tied or losing in both going into the 4th.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Actually, the lead changed three times in the last 14 minutes; it only changed twice in the last 10 minutes. However, those numbers are deceiving, because in fact those two lead changes occurred within 27 seconds (1:57 and 1:30) of each other, after Rodgers had lead the team on a 10-minute drive. Anyone trying to pin this defeat on Rodgers is seriously grasping at straws.

Once again ignoring the problem Aaron Rodgers has leading the team to a comeback would be a HUGE mistake.

"porky88" wrote:



As I have said elsewhere, we wouldn't even be having this conversation had Favre not happened to come from behind and win his first game back in 1992. Other quarterbacks aren't held to this standard you are mentioning.

To answer your question, dhazer, I have posted this stat several times on these boards: In the last 8:00 of games, Favre himself only lead the team to come-from-behind-or-tie drives 22 times out of 90+ attempts in his 16 years in Green Bay -- a little more than once per year. Packers fans are the only group of fans making an issue out of this with their first-year starter.

A few months ago, someone posted a link to an audio clip of a radio show that gave the exact numbers, but I'm not finding it at the moment. Can the person who posted that link please resurrect it for us?
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Rios39
16 years ago

Actually, the lead changed three times in the last 14 minutes; it only changed twice in the last 10 minutes. However, those numbers are deceiving, because in fact those two lead changes occurred within 27 seconds (1:57 and 1:30) of each other, after Rodgers had lead the team on a 10-minute drive. Anyone trying to pin this defeat on Rodgers is seriously grasping at straws.

Once again ignoring the problem Aaron Rodgers has leading the team to a comeback would be a HUGE mistake.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



As I have said elsewhere, we wouldn't even be having this conversation had Favre not happened to come from behind and win his first game back in 1992. Other quarterbacks aren't held to this standard you are mentioning.

To answer your question, dhazer, I have posted this stat several times on these boards: In the last 8:00 of games, Favre himself only lead the team to come-from-behind-or-tie drives 22 times out of 90+ attempts in his 16 years in Green Bay -- a little more than once per year. Packers fans are the only group of fans making an issue out of this with their first-year starter.

A few months ago, someone posted a link to an audio clip of a radio show that gave the exact numbers, but I'm not finding it at the moment. Can the person who posted that link please resurrect it for us?

"porky88" wrote:



That should put this argument to bed.
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TheEngineer
16 years ago
People want to see Rodgers, leading the Packers down the field in the final 2 minutes of a game for a TD to steal the game. I don't think they care for much facts, like whether Rodgers technically has completed a 4th quarter comeback or not. They want to see Rodgers do it the way Favre's done it, because to many of the Packer fans, Favre's career is now the benchmark that any succeeding quarterback must surpass.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Honestly, I DON'T want to see Rodgers leading come-from-behind victories, because more often than not, when you have to come from behind, it means that you've screwed up .
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