beast
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9 years ago
Two questions; where I'm just going to give some simple options, and ask which would you prefer.

Question 1)
Which would you prefer from a WR?

A) 4 catches for 51 yards with 2 first downs and 2 TDs?
B) 5 catches for 44 yards with 3 first downs and 0 TDs?
C) 5 catches for 47 yards with 3 first downs and 0 TDs?

Question 2)
Which would you prefer from a WR?

A) 4 catches for 51 yards and 2 TDs?
B) 10 catches for 93 yards and 0 TDs?
C) 14 catches for 104 yards and 0 TDs?

What answers did you select?
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beast
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9 years ago
Explaining what this question is all about:

Don't read this until after making your selections

I know not all things are equal... (IE QB/defense they play with/against) BUT
In week 1, it can be argued that James Jones out played both the #1 WRs of the teams he was released/cut from and depending how much value you put on TDs vs catches/yards also could be argued that he outplayed the whole other roster of WRs

Options A1 and A2 were James Jones week 1 stat line,
Option B1 was Giants' #1 WR Beckham and B2 was all of Giants WR week 1 stats
Option C1 was Raiders' #1 WR Cooper and C2 was all of Raiders WR week 1 stats

Again, not all things were equal, and it was only one week, but still... pretty impressive week compared to those he was released/cut for... stat wise.

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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Question 1 lacks something I need to know. You don't list Touchdowns, okay, but with the receptions 1 apart and yards just 7 apart the question doesn't really seem of value to me on the surface. If you added how many of those receptions went for 1st downs, then we have something to distinguish them.

Question 2 you gotta take the (at least) 12 points.


BTW, I love when folks use some of the website and forum features like you did with the Spoiler tags! 😃
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beast
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9 years ago

Question 1 lacks something I need to know. You don't list Touchdowns, okay, but with the receptions 1 apart and yards just 7 apart the question doesn't really seem of value to me on the surface. If you added how many of those receptions went for 1st downs, then we have something to distinguish them.

Question 2 you gotta take the (at least) 12 points.


BTW, I love when folks use some of the website and forum features like you did with the Spoiler tags! :-D

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I tried to add first downs (and added TDs, which I thought would make it an unfair land slide which is why I didn't add it in the first place, and was saving it for the second question as well).

I'm glad you loved it... and I enjoy the spoiler option, just never really had a reason to use it.
Also I noticed you loved it so much that you applauded it! 😉 😝
But thank you for the spoiler option (and other options) and saying you enjoyed it 😁
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nerdmann
9 years ago
IMO JJ's current value is his ability to go up and fight for the ball.

Look at all three TDs this past week. Mike doesn't scheme to get guys open. He knows he'll get outsmarted most of the time in a chess match. He schemes for match ups.

Janis has raw skills, but he's not gonna go up and fight for that ball. He's a body catcher. It has to come to him.
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sschind
9 years ago

Two questions; where I'm just going to give some simple options, and ask which would you prefer.

Question 1)
Which would you prefer from a WR?

A) 4 catches for 51 yards with 2 first downs and 2 TDs?
B) 5 catches for 44 yards with 3 first downs and 0 TDs?
C) 5 catches for 47 yards with 3 first downs and 0 TDs?

Question 2)
Which would you prefer from a WR?

A) 4 catches for 51 yards and 2 TDs?
B) 10 catches for 93 yards and 0 TDs?
C) 14 catches for 104 yards and 0 TDs?

What answers did you select?

Originally Posted by: beast 



Since each play affects the ones after it I'd like to know how many times were they targeted? Did any other players score? Where on the field did the catches take place? What was the clock situation like when they made the catches etc. etc? There are far to many variables to make it a simple answer but since the simple answer is what you want I'll take the two TDs and answer A for each question.

Poppa San
9 years ago


Two questions; where I'm just going to give some simple options, and ask which would you prefer.

Question 1)
Which would you prefer from a WR?

A) 4 catches for 51 yards with 2 first downs and 2 TDs?
B) 5 catches for 44 yards with 3 first downs and 0 TDs?
C) 5 catches for 47 yards with 3 first downs and 0 TDs?

Question 2)
Which would you prefer from a WR?

A) 4 catches for 51 yards and 2 TDs?
B) 10 catches for 93 yards and 0 TDs?
C) 14 catches for 104 yards and 0 TDs?

What answers did you select?

Originally Posted by: beast 


Question 1 options B and C are effectively the same numbers.  Otherwise take the points unless you are trying to kill the clock late in the game with a lot of short ball control type passes because the defense is stuffing your running game.


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