musccy
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9 years ago
If you read Vic Ketchman, he has talked about this for months prior to last night's incident. This just happens to be the first time someone really drew attention to it.

Communicategate 

“This is the kind of stuff that happens to the visiting team in Gillette Stadium all the time,” the article said. “From the start of the game through the opening 14 minutes of the first quarter, the Steelers’ coaches’ headsets were receiving the Patriots Radio Network broadcast of the game. The broadcast was so loud that the Steelers coaches were unable to communicate, and the NFL rule is that if one team’s headsets are not working the other team is supposed to be forced to take their headsets off. It’s what the NFL calls the Equity Rule. Strangely enough, whenever an NFL representative proceeded to the New England sideline to shut down their headsets, the Steelers headsets cleared. Then as the representative walked away from the New England sideline, the Steelers’ headsets again started to receive the Patriots game broadcast.”

Zero2Cool
9 years ago
The only issue here is the lack of education displayed by people in journalism continuing to use gate as if it were a suffix.
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musccy
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9 years ago

The only issue here is the lack of education displayed by people in journalism continuing to use gate as if it were a suffix.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Oops. 😢

I see a much bigger issue here. Alone, it may not be damning, and I also get why people are apt to pile on in a witch hunt to bring down a successful team. People would search for flaws in Ghandi if he was winning too many games.

That said, we've heard of;

Spy (not gate)
Deflate (not gate)
Rumors of wiring the visitors' locker rooms
Communication issues

There's a lot of smoke.
yooperfan
9 years ago
As the old saw goes, "where there is smoke there is fire".
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Oops. 😢

I see a much bigger issue here. Alone, it may not be damning, and I also get why people are apt to pile on in a witch hunt to bring down a successful team. People would search for flaws in Ghandi if he was winning too many games.

That said, we've heard of;

Spy
Deflate
Rumors of wiring the visitors' locker rooms
Communication issues

There's a lot of smoke.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



What is the biggest advantage in an NFL game? Home field, right? Why? Crowd noise. Think of Qualcomm (sp) or whatever Seahawks stadium is called.

The Falcons were GUILTY of ILLEGALLY piping in crowd noise and no one says a damn thing about that.

That is not a failure in understanding PSI, that is not a failure in understanding you cannot record live game signals (but wait, what about the TV copy or the All-22? think about it people), ... piping in crowd noise is a blatant and deliberate infraction of the rules. Why is nothing said about the Falcons being cheaters? Because they haven't won damn thing.

Each of the allegations I've researched and studied is predicated on the ignorant of the populous jumping to conclusions off click bait driven headlines.

IF you discredit the Patriots success, look in the mirror & laugh because they took you and made a damn fool out of you.


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gbguy20
9 years ago
If it were any team other than the patriots it would not even be news
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musccy
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9 years ago
Yes, Atlanta cheated, I've suspected the Vikes have with this as well.

Personally I didn't give two shits about deflated footballs, artificial noise, and/or spying signals.

What I DO give two shits about is when the same team keeps popping up in the news with these rumors. I listed four circumstances above that WE ARE AWARE OF. What else don't we know?

Some things are just rumors, maybe even paranoia (visiting lockers) but it can not be denied that there is a lot of smoke around Foxboro.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Yes, Atlanta cheated, I've suspected the Vikes have with this as well.

Personally I didn't give two shits about deflated footballs, artificial noise, and/or spying signals.

What I DO give two shits about is when the same team keeps popping up in the news with these rumors. I listed four circumstances above that WE ARE AWARE OF. What else don't we know?

Some things are just rumors, maybe even paranoia (visiting lockers) but it can not be denied that there is a lot of smoke around Foxboro.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Again, Patriots are winning, that is why you hear it and will continue to hear it. It will not stop until they stop winning.

Wanting to know what else we don't know is what is fueling the media to continue to poke, prod and extrapolate anthill rumors into mountain sized cheating allegations. Why? Because the mindless (not saying you) folks keep on CLICK CLICK and CLICKING some more!

Who the hell asks if the Jaguars or Buccaneers or any other shit team are doing anything underhanded? No one because it is not a damn story that anyone is going to give two rats ass about.
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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
I just want them to fix this shit so we don't have to hear about it anymore.
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musccy
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9 years ago

Again, Patriots are winning, that is why you hear it and will continue to hear it. It will not stop until they stop winning.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What other pro sports team do we hear about this with, though? The Heat, Lakers, Yankees, Seahawks, Cowboys of the '90s? Sure, many were hated as much as the Patriots, but we only hear about things like this, at least with this regularity, with the Patriots.

This isn't sour grapes coming from me. The Pats have never been the reason the Packers didn't go to/win the Super Bowl so I really don't care in that sense. I resent that this, or any team, seems to have such a trail of mischievous behavior, or at least questionable circumstances following them.
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