Training camp report: Monday at a glance

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Demetri Goodson, the sixth-round pick GM Ted Thompson kept over Jumal Rolle, a young cornerback competing for the nickel job in Houston, hasn't shown signs he's going to take the step the Packers were hoping in his second season. Goodson, who started out as a point guard at Gonzaga and finished playing football at Baylor, has fallen behind undrafted rookie Ladarius Gunter on the depth chart and was not sharp in a competitive red zone drill. Rookie receiver Ty Montgomery blew by Goodson so quickly that he couldn't even recover on a pass thrown behind the receiver. Randall Cobb also hit him for a slant. First-round pick Damarious Randall and Gunter make similar mistakes, but every practice they make at least one nice play on the ball and show far greater instincts than Goodson. With second-round pick Quinten Rollins returning from a hamstring injury, Goodson has to start showing up or he'll get completely lost in the shuffle.

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musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Well this certainly is inconvenient news. Too early to conclude, but it's looking like Ted kind of blew it with this one.

Luckily our depth seems to be OK at CB now with the 2 penciled in starters, the two high draft guys supposedly looking good, Gunter being this year's UDFA gem, and Hyde being versatile.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

Well this certainly is inconvenient news. Too early to conclude, but it's looking like Ted kind of blew it with this one.

Originally Posted by: musccy

How?

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

How?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Choosing Goodson over Rolle.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

Choosing Goodson over Rolle.

Originally Posted by: musccy

Rolle was undrafted. Goodson was drafted. It is easier to stash an undrafted player on the practice squad. this wasn't a mistake, it wasn't an error. Rolle isn't even that good anyway.

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Rolle was undrafted. Goodson was drafted. It is easier to stash an undrafted player on the practice squad. this wasn't a mistake, it wasn't an error. Rolle isn't even that good anyway.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Goodson was a 6th rounder and a raw project. Yes, a current draft pick makes it harder to cut, but I don't believe the Packers kept Schlauderhaff (5th) and Datko (7th) in their draft year.

I'm not trying to say this defines Ted's legacy or that this was some epic colossal failure letting an All Pro walk out the door. Just saying based on what we see as of August 4th, it appears Ted shouldn't have kept Goodson on the roster over Rolle.

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: musccy

Don't forget we were able to get Rolle onto the practice squad and could have added him to the roster still at any time. When he signed with Houston we'd had an open roster spot for like 2 weeks. Goodson really has nothing to do with it.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: steveishere

and it wouldn't matter anyway because Goodson (or if he was here, Rolle ) will be cut this season regardless. That's my inner Ted Thompson coming out. 😁

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: steveishere

We can't know this but it certainly appeared that it was a Rolle vs. Goodson choice last summer. That said, it still doesn't change the fact that this appears to have been a miscalculation on Ted's part to have Rolle on PS and Goodson on the 53, or to keep Rolle on the PS.

Again, I acknowledge this probably isn't worthy of a huge debate. I'm a Ted fan, and we're discussing two players that may not even be in the NFL in the next 2-3 years, not Hall of Famers.

QCHuskerFan
Member

9 years ago

#10

TT completely blew this one!

But if the #6 CB is where he made his 1 mistake last year, well, I guess that's not too bad...

:)

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