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10 years ago

Demovsky says the consensus around the NFL is the Packers did great in free agency and the draft. But I read on here that the Packers suck in free agency and drafting. I'm so confused, I don't know what to believe. 🙄

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Consensus? So, what? Demovsky talked to who exactly? Who is defined within "consensus"?

You do realize that if a team extends their players BEFORE they hit their contract year they pay SIGNIFICANTLY less, right? Cobb is the perfect example. Cobb gambled on himself and won, huge. Both of these players could've been had for half of what they ended up with but we paid double and get praised? Ok.

As for the draft? I recall the Vikings Troy Williamson draft. Praised as an "A"...go look it up. Then look at the regrade... 3 years later...F. What someone says about your draft right now is irrelevant and that shouldn't be confusing to anyone who has followed the NFL at all.
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10 years ago

Demovsky says the consensus around the NFL is the Packers did great in free agency and the draft. But I read on here that the Packers suck in free agency and drafting. I'm so confused, I don't know what to believe. 🙄

Originally Posted by: greengold 



You can only be confused if you listen to the drivel. Focus on the gooder stuff, like this. The Packers re-signed one of the top available free agent Tackles and one of the top Wide Receivers and that is vastly better than most teams did this free agency. The draft is another beast that we need at least a few years, personally, I go to three before analyzing it in depth.

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10 years ago
Well I'm. Confused.

Ted signed Cobb as. FA for 40mil, but could of had him for 20mil?

One year earlier Ted extended Jordy for 40mil(approx).

Why didn't Jordy just wait to hit the market?

He would have been worth 80mil.

That's twice the extended price.

Once again Ted makes the right moves and makes some look really foolish.

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10 years ago


As for the draft? I recall the Vikings Troy Williamson draft. Praised as an "A"...go look it up. Then look at the regrade... 3 years later...F. What someone says about your draft right now is irrelevant and that shouldn't be confusing to anyone who has followed the NFL at all.

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You're right... A perfect example would be when you said last year's draft was one of the worst you've seen. That obviously didn't end up being the case.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

You're right... A perfect example would be when you said last year's draft was one of the worst you've seen. That obviously didn't end up being the case.

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Worst I've seen? Oh, I've seen worse...a lot worse.

You still can't say how our draft last year turned out...yet. Some guys you think are good now might turn out terrible...some that were no factor might be studs. No way to know for sure.

I loved the picks of Abby, Bradford and Janis and was okay with Linsley... was okay with Dix, hated the Adams pick, hated Richard Rodgers pick and really didn't have much of a good feeling about Thornton.

Yes, I wasn't crazy about the last draft but saying worst I've seen? I don't think so. The top portion of the draft was very disappointing to me.

Sorry, Cobb could've been had for around 5 mil a year prior to his breakout season last year. We wanted to see if he would stay injury free and he did and cashed in DOUBLE. There is no doubt Randall could've been had for about half prior to his contract year starting. Bulaga could've been had for a lot less, also...I would say 4 million is something he would've jumped at. Team, again, wanted to see him stay healthy he did...he cashed in. See a pattern? We were afraid to extend for injury reasons which is a good cautious approach, but we paid handsomely for not assuming the risk and shouldn't be praised for paying what we paid to retain player we could've had for far, far, less.
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10 years ago
Sorry Uffda, not gonna bite on this one.
You made an idiot statement.
10 pages later it will be the same OLE same OLE.

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10 years ago

Consensus? So, what? Demovsky talked to who exactly? Who is defined within "consensus"?

You do realize that if a team extends their players BEFORE they hit their contract year they pay SIGNIFICANTLY less, right? Cobb is the perfect example. Cobb gambled on himself and won, huge. Both of these players could've been had for half of what they ended up with but we paid double and get praised? Ok.

As for the draft? I recall the Vikings Troy Williamson draft. Praised as an "A"...go look it up. Then look at the regrade... 3 years later...F. What someone says about your draft right now is irrelevant and that shouldn't be confusing to anyone who has followed the NFL at all.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



"Y so negative all the time? Laugh" (I say this as maybe one of your biggest supporters hahahaha)

Signing players early/Signing players late/Not signing them at all: It's kinda a crapshoot in a lot of cases. Cobb and Bulaga both IMO needed to show they could stay healthy before getting signed - and in the case of Cobb, I think the wait time was more his doing than the team's.

I agree with pretty much all of your analysis of the previous draft; This one not so much, though. The picking of the 2 DBs was a great combination of need and athletic potential, and I expect in 3 years to see the draft praised and graded high.

The big point of controversy of this and every off-season was avoiding like the plague the market for other teams' free agents, and this is one area where I generally support Ted Thompson.

Positive and thankful as I am for this Packer team in general, though, I will say this: if the Packers really did better than anybody else in the NFL this off-season, then nobody musta done very damn good. I see the Packers as doing what one of the most talented teams should do, not getting any worse and drafting for potential. That, to me, makes it about a C+/B- off-season.


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10 years ago

Sorry, Cobb could've been had for around 5 mil a year prior to his breakout season last year. We wanted to see if he would stay injury free and he did and cashed in DOUBLE. There is no doubt Randall could've been had for about half prior to his contract year starting.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I call bullshit. Cobb wanted NOTHING to do with a lowball extension coming off an injury shortened 2013. Yet you continue to pretend he wanted to extend early for peanuts when he had missed 10 games the year before.

Provide some proof that Randall WANTED to sign a long term contract for $5M a year prior to the 2014 season AND the Packers were unwilling to offer such a contract or STFU.

You making something up then repeating it over and over and over and over does not make it true.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

Sorry Uffda, not gonna bite on this one.
You made an idiot statement.
10 pages later it will be the same OLE same OLE.

Find a new hobby

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No reason to do so...I'm 100% right. Our cap has about double the charge against, today, for not signing Cobb and Bulaga early. It is supposedly our philosophy to lock players up BEFORE they hit their contract year. That is good practice if the player is ascending. No question Cobb was...he was injured...broken leg...freak deal. No long term issue. I can sincerely and confidently say that it was a major mistake in not extending Randall before he played out his contract.

With Bulaga, I understand the waiting on him because he's held together with duct tape. Giving him big money now is more risky than giving him half of what he would've gotten before his contract year.

The ultimate point is...there is nothing to praise our org for in spending untold millions more than they needed to on two of their own. The spin and lack of logic in praising that is stupefying. Way to go organization...you just spent double what you could have had you done this a year earlier. Yup...hooray. Don't get me wrong...I love that Randall is back. A budding YOUNG star. However, we paid double to protect ourselves. A mistake in hindsight.

Texas...I'm not negative...I'm just not blindly optimistic like most. I don't read some goofy headline about how wonderful our offseason was without running it through some critical thinking first.

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uffda udfa
10 years ago

I call bullshit. Cobb wanted NOTHING to do with a lowball extension coming off an injury shortened 2013. Yet you continue to pretend he wanted to extend early for peanuts when he had missed 10 games the year before.

Provide some proof that Randall WANTED to sign a long term contract for $5M a year prior to the 2014 season AND the Packers were unwilling to offer such a contract or STFU.

You making something up then repeating it over and over and over and over does not make it true.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



You are absolutely right...he did not. What was the number he was offered? Do you know? I could say the same of your premise. We know Randall was offered something and he didn't want any part of it. I will promise you it was nowhere near 10 mil a season. What was it then? It was a low ball offer, of course, it was... our org was trying to be smart proactive and save a lot of money. It offered far too low just as it did in the Moss, Gonzales and Lynch deals that didn't happen. Do you really think if the deal for Randall would've been 5 or 6 million he wouldn't have taken that as a slot guy? I'm going to guess we offered far less than 5 or 6 and he scoffed at it as he should've. There is no way on this earth you will ever be able to make the point that Randall was only going to sign early for something right next to 10 mil per. So, even had we paid 7...that's 30% less. You don't think RC18 would've taken 7 and would've considered that a lowball? No freaking way. We offered squat ORG's FAULT...has nothing to do with Randall. If org gave him a good offer he takes it and it ain't anywhere near 10 million.

Slice, dice, spin, repeat...we overpaid by not signing him early and there is nothing you can say counter to that. Ditto on Bulaga. Get upset, type STFU, type insults...it's simply the truth. There is no reason to celebrate paying 10 mil to a guy you could've paid a lot less a year prior and there was no reason to pay Bulaga 7 million with his injury history. Very against the Bulaga signing. Very pro Randall's signing just that it cost us way more than it should've and that's the orgs fault and it deserves no praise for doling out 10 million.
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I'm going to guess we offered far less than 5 or 6 and he scoffed at it as he should've.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You're going to guess, then you are going to repeat it over and over and over and over as a fact; but you have no clue what was offered. But if you keep saying it, (and you will, because it makes Ted Thompson sound stupid) maybe someone will believe you.
uffda udfa
10 years ago

You're going to guess, then you are going to repeat it over and over and over and over as a fact; but you have no clue what was offered. But if you keep saying it, (and you will, because it makes Ted Thompson sound stupid) maybe someone will believe you.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



You want me to produce numbers you know I can't produce and hide behind that knowing full well we wouldn't have paid 10 million to extend him prior to his contract year.

Do you dispute this? Do you?

It is not a guess that it wasn't going to take 10 million to extend him prior to his contract year. Again, you really wish to argue this point? It's a reality and you know that it is but you can hide behind the fact I don't have the actual numbers.

I am 100% correct...you know it, and don't like it.

EDIT: Randall was supposedly asking for around 9 million:

According to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, agent Jimmy Sexton let team executives know at the combine that Cobb's asking price was to be in the range of $12 million per year. Earlier indications, as reported by Rob Demovsky of ESPN, had Cobb in the area of $9 million.

---So, Randall asked for around 9 million AFTER posting better numbers than Victor Cruz. He was still asking less than 10 million AFTER his breakout season. So, YES, there is YOUR PROOF we overpaid this guy or are you going to insist he was going to ask for 10 million or even anywhere near 9 BEFORE his breakout season? Irrefutable. My issue is not to make anyone look stupid. The issue is and remains it is plain STUPID to praise our org for retaining him like we did something good. Yeah, we way overpaid by not signing him a year prior.

2nd edit: Here's a report about what we offered him PRIOR to FA:

The Packers have reportedly offered Cobb a five-year deal worth somewhere between $8 and $9 million annually—an offer that has been rejected by Cobb’s agent Jimmy Sexton.

--- Again, you think we offered anything near between 8 and 9 PRIOR to last season? NOPE. Lowballed, him just like you said. You seem to know that is true, why don't you know the rest is? We absolutely overpaid by waiting until he had his huge season. There is nothing to argue so why are you?
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10 years ago
We absolutely did not overpay for Cobb. I would love to see any proof suggesting we did. If anything we got a great deal on Cobb.
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You want me to produce numbers you know I can't produce

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



No, I want you to use the second option, stop claiming the Packers are incompetent based on a fairy tale fabricated entirely by you.

I.E. "After the 2013 season when he missed 10 games, Randall Cobb asked for a long term extension for only $5M per year. The Packers were not willing to pay that much and now it cost them double." <- That total fabrication, in case you were wondering which one.

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10 years ago

No, I want you to use the second option, stop claiming the Packers are incompetent based on a fairy tale fabricated entirely by you.

I.E. "After the 2013 season when he missed 10 games, Randall Cobb asked for a long term extension for only $5M per year. The Packers were not willing to pay that much and now it cost them double." <- That total fabrication, in case you were wondering which one.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



I have never said the org was stupid...if you actually read my posts, I called their practice with Cobb and Bulaga smart and cautious. HOWEVER, that does not mean that in hindsight it wasn't the complete wrong move. It was, in hindsight.

You seem to miss my point often. You want to argue things I'm not even arguing. I'm saying, AGAIN, that it is just ridiculous to praise our org for extending Cobb and Bulaga for the money we extended them at. I see some interesting posts. There is no short supply of posts praising our org for not getting involved in FA. It's very odd that it is now claimed we do, in fact, use FA, and then we praise our org for overpaying it's own. If you don't see the contradiction...
We have overspent on Shields, Burnett, Hawk, Jones, Bulaga, Matthews and Cobb. It is no wonder we don't use real FA, we can't afford to as we've wasted so much money on our own. Our org dig make a mistake with Cobb. It simply did. What is debatable is Bulaga... I think it was a really really risky move giving him the money he got. I don't like it at all. Would've been worried at the reduced rate we could've gotten him at prior to his contract year as well.
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We have overspent on Shields, Burnett, Hawk, Jones, Bulaga, Matthews and Cobb.

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That is your opinion.

I agree we overspent on Jones and Hawk.

Cobb and Bulaga got market value, not above market value. And the Packers had no choice on either one. Jimmy Sexton was not going to let Cobb sign a below market extension coming off a season where he only played 6 games. That would be crazy for Cobb to consider. Cobb's cap hit this year is only $5.3M which is a bargain. Next year the cap goes up and you can look at his production versus his cap hit versus next years salary cap to decide again. Ted Thompson contracts usually look like a bargain after a year or two.

Bulaga, as you said, was not going to be offered an extension early due to his injury history. His average cap hit going forward makes him the 18th highest paid OT, I thought he graded higher than 18th overall. It makes him the second highest paid RT, I think he graded as the best right tackle last year. Anyway, his cap hit this year is only $3.5M which I would not call overspending on an above average right tackle. Again, subject to revisit as the cap goes up and OT salaries go up.

Shields, $9.1M this year. I dunno, find me somebody better for less money and we can talk.

Burnett and Matthews were both extended before they hit free agency. That's how you get bargains, right? I would not say they are grossly under-performing on their existing contracts. I can't agree the Packers overspent here.

Ok, so Ted Thompson swung and missed on Jones and Hawk. Everybody knows that. Both players are gone. We are ready to move on. Are you with us or against us?

uffda udfa
10 years ago

That is your opinion.

I agree we overspent on Jones and Hawk.

Cobb and Bulaga got market value, not above market value. And the Packers had no choice on either one. Jimmy Sexton was not going to let Cobb sign a below market extension coming off a season where he only played 6 games. That would be crazy for Cobb to consider. Cobb's cap hit this year is only $5.3M which is a bargain. Next year the cap goes up and you can look at his production versus his cap hit versus next years salary cap to decide again. Ted Thompson contracts usually look like a bargain after a year or two.

Bulaga, as you said, was not going to be offered an extension early due to his injury history. His average cap hit going forward makes him the 18th highest paid OT, I thought he graded higher than 18th overall. It makes him the second highest paid RT, I think he graded as the best right tackle last year. Anyway, his cap hit this year is only $3.5M which I would not call overspending on an above average right tackle. Again, subject to revisit as the cap goes up and OT salaries go up.

Shields, $9.1M this year. I dunno, find me somebody better for less money and we can talk.

Burnett and Matthews were both extended before they hit free agency. That's how you get bargains, right? I would not say they are grossly under-performing on their existing contracts. I can't agree the Packers overspent here.

Ok, so Ted Thompson swung and missed on Jones and Hawk. Everybody knows that. Both players are gone. We are ready to move on. Are you with us or against us?

Originally Posted by: greengold 



I'm not for or against anyone. I like the truth. The truth, again, is we lost a lot of cap charge by not signing Cobb and Bulaga the year before they hit FA. There isn't a single doubt in my mind that if the Packers had offered an extremely good deal to an ascending player, he wouldn't be playing on a 10 mil per deal. It was a gamble the org made and it paid handsomely for being wrong.

Back to the for or against... I would like for you to acknowledge that we, in fact, did pay millions upon millions more for the pair by not extending them early. Further, it's absolute insanity to praise the org for retaining both players at the prices we retained them at. That's all.

Our org has a habit of overvaluing it's own while completely dismissing stud players from the outside because they're "too costly". The irony is incredible...on one hand it's okay, completely, to use FA for your own guys and overpay them but not someone else's? Inconsistent. Burning cap space is burning cap space whether you overpay your own or overpay an outsider. I just tire of the typical homer who likes praising the org for being so smart about staying out of FA but then turns around and celebrates what a great job we did in FA by overpaying our own. It's just mindboggling.
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Back to the for or against... I would like for you to acknowledge that we, in fact, did pay millions upon millions more for the pair by not extending them early. Further, it's absolute insanity to praise the org for retaining both players at the prices we retained them at. That's all.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



No, it is YOUR fantasy story. I would like YOU to explain HOW they would convince Randall Cobb and Jimmy Sexton to take millions upon millions BELOW market value by extending right after missing 10 games in 2013. And WHY Randall Cobb would agree to take millions upon millions BELOW market value by extending right after missing 10 games in 2013. Or you could just stop. 😢 That's all.

uffda udfa
10 years ago

No, it is YOUR fantasy story. I would like YOU to explain HOW they would convince Randall Cobb and Jimmy Sexton to take millions upon millions BELOW market value by extending right after missing 10 games in 2013. And WHY Randall Cobb would agree to take millions upon millions BELOW market value by extending right after missing 10 games in 2013. Or you could just stop. 😢 That's all.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



No fantasy whatsoever. Have you ever taken an economics class? Supply and demand? You realize that due to Randall's injury his demand was very down? That is why he wasn't worried about an extension because he knew he couldn't command what he hoped to command somewhere down the road. That is where our org failed. It should've jumped into that gap BEFORE Randall put up the monster season last year which sent his demand soaring. Our org failed to recognize that he would put up the monster season, watched it happen, and then had to pay handsomely for it because it did all because they weren't forward thinking enough to give him a great deal BEFORE he made it to where he knew he could walk and sign a brinks truck deal elsewhere. Randall had next zero bargaining power prior to last season. Our org didn't give him a good enough offer much like it failed to give good enough offers in the failed Moss, Gonzales and Lynch situations. It just took a little bit more for an EXTREME return for such a little investment. Org gambled Cobb wouldn't blow it out last season but he did and they paid MILLIONS for not being more proactive. That's a stone cold fact.

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