nerdmann
10 years ago

First, it's your...not you're. I can teach on more than just football. 20 years in media and your? C'mon, man. 😁

Go read my original point. I do like to respond to silly subject line posts.

I invited you, Buck, to go re-read what you wrote about our org while Cobb negotiations were on going. What did you do back then? Praise our management for sticking to their number and you were resigned to the idea Randall would be leaving as our org, who rightfully so to you, wouldn't be budging off their set number.

Fast forward to after Cobb signed his deal...here comes a post with all kinds of celebratory language from you starting off...That's how you sign a guy for 40 million and then conclude it with that's why our GM is the best. What an absolute joke. You were praising him for not budging...then he budges and you praise him even more. You are nothing but shifting sands that is going to praise regardless of what happens. You will notice I'm not like you at all...I said the same stuff then as I said now. We overspent to keep him...I was happy we kept him as I said we had to keep him and paying more to do so had to be done. After I saw what we spent, I was very disappointed in how much we spent because it should've NEVER come to that.

Have fun with your "you said 5 million"... run with it! I did say that...and I do believe it. I have no source and never said I did. Randall's comments about not wanting an extension because he didn't deserve one is a direct reflection of receiving an insulting contract offer. He was right...he did not deserve a crappy offer from our org. He is and was a budding star who knew he was worth so much more and was going to prove to us and the other 31 teams he was. RC said his contract situation really bothered him at the beginning of last season. Why would he say that? Why? If he was so freaking comfortable without one why did he say his play suffered and he was focused too much on his contract? Wake up. All of you... wake up. You can continue hating me but I'm right about this. I couldn't be more right. Our org didn't offer him a respectable deal. He didn't need anywhere near a 10 million dollar deal to sign but because or org CHOSE not to value him properly it had to pay more than it wanted to...TWICE...once after the 2013 season and then after it made it's offer after 2014 that still wasn't enough. It's a good thing Randall really seems to like Green bay or he would've just walked out of principle.

Randall wanted a contract...his own quotes prove that he was bothered about his contract situation...or org failed to step up and offer him a fair deal to end all of that for him. He should be signed and for a lot less than he is right now but continue the fantasy that our org did such masterful job and won free agency because we're just the best run org on the planet. The charade is cute if not maddening to watch play out here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Our, not or. And we're still waiting for you to back up any of your assertions with factual references.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

First, it's your...not you're. I can teach on more than just football. 20 years in media and your? C'mon, man. 😁

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I used to point this out as well and then realized sometimes on phones or tablets, it injects You're instead of Your and when you have a small screen, you might not have seen it.
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greengold
10 years ago

Have fun with your "you said 5 million"... run with it! I did say that...and I do believe it. I have no source and never said I did. Randall's comments about not wanting an extension because he didn't deserve one is a direct reflection of receiving an insulting contract offer.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

of $6 million per year. (as long as we are fabricating numbers, I say the offer was $6M.)

Agent says, no way kid. If you have just an average season this year you will make that much on the open market. Go out and play up to your potential you might get $12 million. You can't sign a contract right now, you have no bargaining power.


He was right...he did not deserve a crappy offer from our org. He is and was a budding star who knew he was worth so much more and was going to prove to us and the other 31 teams he was. RC said his contract situation really bothered him at the beginning of last season. Why would he say that? Why? If he was so freaking comfortable without one why did he say his play suffered and he was focused too much on his contract?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Why was he uncomfortable? Because he wanted to stay with the Packers. He wanted a contract extension but had to wait because of the injury in 2013.

Wake up. All of you... wake up. You can continue hating me but I'm right about this. I couldn't be more right. Our org didn't offer him a respectable deal.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

No, you wake up. Why can't you provide a single example of a "budding star" signing an early contract extension while injured for HALF of what he would command on the open market? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD. Only in this twisted fantasy you have completely FABRICATED does that happen.

He didn't need anywhere near a 10 million dollar deal to sign but because or org CHOSE not to value him properly it had to pay more than it wanted to...TWICE...once after the 2013 season and then after it made it's offer after 2014 that still wasn't enough. It's a good thing Randall really seems to like Green bay or he would've just walked out of principle.

Randall wanted a contract...his own quotes prove that he was bothered about his contract situation...or org failed to step up and offer him a fair deal to end all of that for him. He should be signed and for a lot less than he is right now but continue the fantasy that our org did such masterful job and won free agency because we're just the best run org on the planet. The charade is cute if not maddening to watch play out here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



So Ted Thompson ran over your dog or what? What is the real beef here?

uffda udfa
10 years ago
No, you wake up. Why can't you provide a single example of a "budding star" signing an early contract extension while injured for HALF of what he would command on the open market? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD. Only in this twisted fantasy you have completely FABRICATED does that happen.

--- I just want to say that you know the Packers offered him a contract, right? You seem to imply in your post that we did BUT... it was REJECTED by RANDALL. Why was it rejected? It was a joke of an offer for what he can provide a team. So, what NEEDED to happen for him to sign? A VERY GOOD OFFER so it would keep him off the open market so we didn't have to pay even more. We weren't comfortable giving him a big contract BECAUSE of the broken leg. We wanted to "waiit and see"... we shouldn't have needed to wait and see. We should've just given him a very good offer whereby he signs and we get a star for a lot less than the 31 FA market dictated to us.

There is no real personal issue with Ted Thompson from my perspective. I've said this so many times but I'll say it again... my issue is somewhat with him for not maximizing having the greatest QB of all time on his roster and leaving a defense barren of talent while he ticks into his 30's. My bigger problem is with fans who have deified this guy into an almost infallible being. Shoot, I posted links and commented on what one poster did here. Praised our GM for sticking to his guns and then when our GM didn't stick to his guns he got praised even more by the same poster. Our GM is some god to him and many others all because we win the division year after year in a very weak division where we have the greatest QB of all time. We SHOULD win the division and we should be in SB's quite often but we routinely go out in the playoffs. I find that the fault of our management who has failed to provide enough defensive talent to get us there again. How many squandered 1st round defensive picks does he get to make before he's no longer seen as a god? It seems there is no limit there. I see him one way and most others see him 180 from how I do. When I ask the questions about the D there is never an answer. Why does our GM continually suck at building a defense? Isn't that just as important as the offense? Most of you would cite the ridiculous phrase defense wins championships... our guy can't build one. Yet, he's a stellar drafter and the top or one of the top GM's in the game because we win the division every year. Good has been turned into words like stellar, great, awesome, the best. He does a nice job on some things and he's not so good in some others...overall he's a little bit better than he is awful. Taking it to this topic... we pay Bulaga and Cobb about 17 million per average for both... and our GM is praised as having the best offseason and just doing awesome work on those two? How? Why? Both could've been had for a lot less than they were. We waited them out and paid millions more. That's a loss. Not a win.

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