nerdmann
9 years ago

both should have won another Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Holmgren cost us that SB against Denver, accoring to a number of players and assistant coaches. He kept sending 5 guys out in exotic pass patterns instead of keeping someone in to pass pro. Then again Bert didn't help him much either with his hijinks.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
QCHuskerFan
9 years ago
Packer Fans have nothing to complain about after the last 20 years of success.

There is, however, plenty for some of you to whine about... Incessantly. 🙂
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nerdmann
9 years ago
I'm an owner. If something's not up to par I certainly have the right to say so.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I'm an owner. If something's not up to par I certainly have the right to say so.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



As an owner, you have a role, and that role is ownership, not leadership. Know your role, obey your role, sit down and enjoy Aaron Rodgers.

🤨 😱
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
Just clicked on this link to see what it's all about and low and behold I am some how the creator!
Gonna go read the article then comment.

I guess it has created. Discussion, so can't be all that bad.

Will be back!
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Just clicked on this link to see what it's all about and low and behold I am some how the creator!
Gonna go read the article then comment.

I guess it has created. Discussion, so can't be all that bad.

Will be back!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Thank you for clicking the icon to create the topic. We need more people doing that and adding their comments. That way we can parade the site around as a Discussion Forum of sorts. 😝
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nerdmann
9 years ago

As an owner, you have a role, and that role is ownership, not leadership. Know your role, obey your role, sit down and enjoy Aaron Rodgers.

🤨 😱

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't need anyone's permission to speak my mind.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
68md
9 years ago
Having been around way before both HC this argument isn't close. MM got a franchise that was already turned around with a solid base and management and a HOF QB and then the team gave him another.

Mike Holmgren had to start that building process. His first staff had Jon Gruden, Dick Jauron, Andy Reid and
Steve Mariucci who all went on to be HC. He reinstilled the winning way in GB such as had not been seen in 20 years.

So frankly you can all love on MM and I think he deserves praise and accolades but without Mike Holmgren building that foundation there is no MM and things are not the same in packerland.

Two cents
uffda udfa
9 years ago
MM hasn't taken this franchise to new heights. He hasn't been to multiple SB's. He's not a very smart guy. (I wish they made coaches take the Wonderlic)

I completely disagree with QC. The last 20 years have mostly been a total waste save for the two SB victories. How many SB has New England WON over the 20 years we should be "thankful" for? Our org has squandered two of the all time greats at QB. To get one SB win out of each would be a monumental failure. Indy got one out of Peyton Manning. That's a failure. Miami got none out of Marino...man, is that ever a failure.

How do you think the Green Bay Packers are going to be WITHOUT an all time great under center? Be thankful? I'm "panicked" because I know what's coming without one. I've seen it. To waste Favre and Rodgers decades worth of all time QB play with two SB wins? Total failure. New England still could've done more with Brady...we've done so much less than they have.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


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