I don't disagree.

What's really stupid though is the intensity of support for players by fans with non existent true football knowledge. Fans have no idea what is going on.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 

Whoa, whoa ...WHOA!!

Part of being a fan is having an uneducated, uninformed opinion and able to freely express. Hell, that is one the primary reasons this site exists so people can freely (while albeit at times ignorantly--me included) express their opinion. That is our entitlement as a fan. Who do you think the players get paid through? TV Contract money is because we watch the TV. NFL merchandise. Etc. We have paid our dues and bunny rabbit dammit, it is perfectly acceptable to passionately opine about a player good or bad regardless of our football ignorance!

And when the reigning NFL MVP (second time and also a Super Bowl MVP) says he is exited about a WR's potential, and I throw in what I witnessed of this WR as a rookie, I am perfectly within my right to be show intensity while supporting the player who some think after ONE ROOKIE SEASON he was a wasted 2nd round pick.


If he drops a game winning touchdown, I'll intensely say I told you all he sucked from day one and we should have kept Jarrett Boykin. 😝

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I don't disagree with most of what you say. But when a supposed 'fan' criticizes Adams so that they can argue Janis (Who has shown absolutely nothing in a real NFL football sense and likely won't even be on the team in 3 months) is much better, I, as a uneducated fan, have a right to get upset. How can someone qualify as a fan when all they do is spew negativity about current coaches and players? There are a few on here that show more animosity for the Packers than I do for the Bears. And I live in IL! It just gets old listening to them bash 'my' players with their stupid, uneducated bs.

Must be vacation time again.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 

Sometimes I wonder if we have Vikings/Bears fans posing and posting as Packers fans here with how they attack young players with such ferocity as if they ruined their romantic life or something. It's almost as if they go against the grain for sake of going against the grain.

Anyhow, when the appreciative and more supportive fans don't speak up, then the negative Nancy's get their way and ultimately ... win. I try, but it seems some would rather complain about what is happening instead of being a part of the solution to saturate the negativity with ... oh I dunno ... some subjective analysis or anything of the like.

In other words, we can sit with our thumbs up our ass, or we can speak up in support of our players and our team and our coaches. The fans decide. And this fan trusts Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Those are opinions and they have zero to do with negativity or positivity. Just how I feel.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I believe fans who think they can evaluate WR talent better than the coaches and QB who see the WRs every day in practice are delusional. I believe fans who think they could outdraft Ted Thompson are full of shit.

Those would be considered negative opinions by most. I guess you would say it has zero to do with negativity or positivity, it's just how I feel.

The difference between you and me is I don't feel the need to state my negative opinions in every thread on this board.

Originally Posted by: greengold 

I trust Aaron Rodgers the quarterback but don't trust Aaron Rodgers the soothsayer. He's right less than a broken clock.

Why is it negative to think Jeff Janis might be better than Davante Adams? I could just as easily say it's negative to think Jeff Janis isn't good. It's curious. How can I be so pro Jeff Janis and be a "negative nancy"? How? It's illogical.

I truly happen to believe Davante Adams will not be that great for us and shouldn't have been drafted in the 2nd round by us. That is my opinion.

Would it be negative to say the Packers sucked and choked away the SB in Seattle last year...or would it be the truth and or my honest opinion?

Me as a fan...I love Aaron Rodgers, Randall Cobb, Casey Hayward and have high hopes for Janis. I also really like Eddie, especially in the pass game. I like Clay Matthews and truly wonder how much roids has shaped him. I love Sam Shields speed.

I think Ted Thompson is overrated by fans by a lot and Mike McCarthy is a middle of the road HC, too. Those are opinions and they have zero to do with negativity or positivity. Just how I feel.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

The majority of your comments on this Packers website degrade Ted Thompson and the Packers players. Rarely do you have something positive to say unless it's a footnote on your negative slant on someone.




I'm not saying we need to all be cheerey-oh matey, but coming here, constantly knocking the things the fans like is just kind of dickish troll moves. Oh you like your General Manager? How about this and that and therefore he's garbage with my slanted scope on things! You like this player, well I'm going to take one statistic and run it into the ground and ignore piles of evidence that prove otherwise.

To be clairvoyant here, we've had numerous Vikings fans who were more objective about the Packers team than you have been since joining. I mean, think about that for a second. You're a fan and you're rather piss in the fans cheerio's with an obsessive passion? As one of those fans, I feel what you're doing is simply not right. It's like the asshole in the bar who after your team scores he goes "he got lucky, that LB should have got him". Dude, stfu and take the score, enjoy it and at a later date analyze it.

Anyhooters, moving on, can we get back to the damn topic for a freaking change of pace?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

You're just going to think what you're going to think no matter how many times I tell you something.

I'm "negative" because you are the exact opposite. You don't like what I say and it feels "negative" because you don't share the opinion. You seem to imply or think that I must want the Packers to win less than you do. Nope. I may want them to win more and see impediments to getting there that bother me. That isn't negative.

If a consultant came into work and blew out a bunch of people you would instantly scream that it was negative what he did. However, what he may have done is save your business and that would be a major positive. It is perception that makes it so. To YOU and MOST here I am....NEGATIVE. I know that I'm not negative and desire the Packers to be a dominating dynasty not a perennial playoff one and doner.

The meme is so off I don't even know how to comment. Lift who up? Players you and I both don't know? How is what you or I saying lifting or putting them down in any way? I don't think Davante thinks...hey, man whew I have a bunch of fans at Packershome who think I'll be a star. Man, that gives me a jolt. Nor is the converse true.

If you're referring to me countering fans opinions here then I really really don't know what to say. Should this be fantasyland where one comes here to just feel good? Perhaps, one time you might feel good and another not...it shouldn't be a prerequisite to feel good when you post here. Losses bring downs wins bring highs. This is offseason. Time to inspect the team and look where we're strong and weak and talk about it just that talking about weakness or not being overly enthusiastic to the point of pukery is not really tolerated too well.

Glad Aaron is excited...he is about everyone almost all the time.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

You're just going to think what you're going to think no matter how many times I tell you something.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I'm "negative" because you are the exact opposite. You don't like what I say and it feels "negative" because you don't share the opinion. You seem to imply or think that I must want the Packers to win less than you do. Nope. I may want them to win more and see impediments to getting there that bother me. That isn't negative.

If a consultant came into work and blew out a bunch of people you would instantly scream that it was negative what he did. However, what he may have done is save your business and that would be a major positive. It is perception that makes it so. To YOU and MOST here I am....NEGATIVE. I know that I'm not negative and desire the Packers to be a dominating dynasty not a perennial playoff one and doner.

The meme is so off I don't even know how to comment. Lift who up? Players you and I both don't know? How is what you or I saying lifting or putting them down in any way? I don't think Davante thinks...hey, man whew I have a bunch of fans at Packershome who think I'll be a star. Man, that gives me a jolt. Nor is the converse true.

If you're referring to me countering fans opinions here then I really really don't know what to say. Should this be fantasyland where one comes here to just feel good? Perhaps, one time you might feel good and another not...it shouldn't be a prerequisite to feel good when you post here. Losses bring downs wins bring highs. This is offseason. Time to inspect the team and look where we're strong and weak and talk about it just that talking about weakness or not being overly enthusiastic to the point of pukery is not really tolerated too well.

Glad Aaron is excited...he is about everyone almost all the time.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa