Packers got a steal with Davante Adams in second round· Page 12

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

LOL this could seriously be the dumbest thread I've ever seen on a sports forum.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Really? It's a lot more stimulating than every other topic over there in "Recent Topics".

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#112

LOL this could seriously be the dumbest thread I've ever seen on a sports forum.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#113

If anything, Janis resembles Boykin. The Packers have little invested in him. He showed nothing in Year 1. Some fans believe he is the new Savior.

Packers have a high round draft pick invested in Adams.

The difference between Boykin and Adams is negligible to people that don't understand football. To Mike McCarthy & TT, there is a difference. I believe in them as their track record is proven. Unlike certain posters...

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

You do recall you buying the whole MM saying that he wasn't higher on anyone than Jarrett Boykin, do you not? So, MM was higher than anyone on the roster but there is this major gap between Boykin and Adams?

Don't recall MM being anywhere near as effusive in his praise for Davante Adams and he loves his coach speak.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

68md
Member

10 years ago

#114

Travis Jervey had two impressive kick returns over 60 yards as well, didn't mean squat. The return by Jeff Janis was nothing special at all. If the initial guy doesn't over-pursue, Janis is down pretty quick. That's the thing about going against 3rd and 4th stringers. You can use that speed to make you look elite. It don't fly against starters.

LeShon Johnson another guy with good speed had a 200+ yard game with the Cardinals and a helluva 56 and 70 yard touchdown runs. Didn't amount to much after wards.

Speed can only get you so far. You need instincts (e.g. Jerry Rice) and good route running (e.g. Antonio Freeman, Greg Jennings). If you can't get any separation, you're toast.

Adams can get separation, Janis hasn't and just because he was the fastest 4th string guy on a kick return doesn't mean squat.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Game ... SET .... Match Z2C 👍

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#115

You do recall you buying the whole Mike McCarthy saying that he wasn't higher on anyone than Jarrett Boykin, do you not? So, Mike McCarthy was higher than anyone on the roster but there is this major gap between Boykin and Adams?

Don't recall Mike McCarthy being anywhere near as effusive in his praise for Davante Adams and he loves his coach speak.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

When did MM say that and in what context...meaning did a reporter ask him "hey is Boykin a great guy?" What is MM supposed to say.

I'm not necessarily disputing MM could have said that, but you have a history of taking quotes much more literally than they should be taken.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#116

When did Mike McCarthy say that and in what context...meaning did a reporter ask him "hey is Boykin a great guy?" What is Mike McCarthy supposed to say.

I'm not necessarily disputing Mike McCarthy could have said that, but you have a history of taking quotes much more literally than they should be taken.

Originally Posted by: musccy

"I'm as high on Boykin as anybody in our building," McCarthy said Friday from the NFL Scouting Combine...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1972898-why-mike-mccarthy-is-so-high-on-packers-wr-jarrett-boykin

Read that and come back here and tell me that we really needed to draft Davante with our 2nd rounder. We didn't. If we were taking a WR we should've taken one with a different skill set than just a run of the mill possession guy with below average speed. It made no sense because Boykin is the same type of player as Davante...he's slower, and taller, but I've heard that speed isn't all that important so I'm not sure what the need to replace a hammer with a hammer was all about. Would've been nice to add a different/better tool to the toolbox.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

mi_keys
Senior Member

10 years ago

#117

Huh? I've said, consistently, the only special thing I saw from him in his rookie season was his play in Miami on the fake spike. That was big time right there. Other than that, I haven't gotten excited about him at all.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

We have different definitions of special. We know Davante isn't fast...we know he's not of elite strength...we know he can jump high. What is special about that play to you? He caught a ball wide open in space and ran to the corner for 6? Did he just blaze his way to the endzone where nobody was going to catch him because of his elite speed?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

So even the very vague complaint of "he didn't do anything else that was special" was colored by your focus on speed.

Born and bred a cheesehead

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#118

You did say that and you were dismissive of others that suggested that Davante made other special plays last year. Most cited was his touchdown against Dallas in the playoffs, to which you responded earlier in this thread as follows:

So even the very vague complaint of "he didn't do anything else that was special" was colored by your focus on speed.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Not sure what your point is? I should think his TD vs. Dallas was some special play due to his unique ability? There isn't 50 or more WR's in the NFL right now who couldn't have made that play? It wasn't special.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

greengold
Member

10 years ago

#119

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Younger. Stronger. Faster. Cheaper. How many reasons do you want? It is a game of replacement. Deal with it.

cheeseheads123
Member

10 years ago

#120

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Not many rookie WR's get open like this.

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