Packers got a steal with Davante Adams in second round· Page 3

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Wow...not at all. Randall Cobb is one of my all time favorite Packers players. Is he BIG? He's not 4.3 either. He's a savvy, smart, winner. Love the guy.

Davante Adams showed me nothing... and I mean nothing to indicate he was, is, or is going to be a big time player for us. He lacks speed. He's not overly strong. There's not a trait I can think of that I saw on display that excited me.

I'll keep asking...what trait of his did you see that made you think that we'd struck gold with him? I mentioned the play in Miami as being the only thing I saw all season. What's yours? Oh, he plays for the Packers and was a 2nd round pick so he must be good?

Jeff Janis looked like a complete gamechanger in his very short time. Rare measurables...something unique and quantifiable in watching him. Blew past guys. Looks like he's playing fast forward. Davante looks typical. A decent sized guy who is a chain mover. I'm sorry I'm not as fired up about him as I am double J. Why should I be?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

4.5 is the same 40 time as Greg Jennings and iirc Jerry Rice too.

Dude is elusive with the ball in his hands, always turns the right way and makes people miss.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

gbguy20
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#22

Jeff Janis looked like a complete gamechanger in his very short time.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Are you still talking about preseason, or am i missing something?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#23

4.5 is the same 40 time as Greg Jennings and iirc Jerry Rice too.

Dude is elusive with the ball in his hands, always turns the right way and makes people miss.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Nerd...where are you getting your info? Jerry Rice ran 4.71. The other day you said Davante Adams outdid Jennings and James Jones combined in his rookie season when the exact opposite was true.

Davante is elusive? He seems to be a straightliner to me.

Yup...still talking about what I saw in St. Louis...what I'm talking about is reality based. I saw it. I also saw Davante for an entire season and never once saw a play from him remotely like the ones from Janis.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

If Dallas' secondary is "one of the worst" then where does the St. Louis 3rd string secondary rank?

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Adams was playing behind two elite WRs at the time, yet had comparable numbers. If you go back to the New England and Dallas games, you will see him breaking tackles, changing direction, spinning out of the grasp of defenders.

And it's weird man. I remember approximately ONE play by Janis. LOL :mrgreen: 🇹🇹

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Who was James Jones behind when he didn't measure up to Davante's numbers like you said? He outdid Davante's numbers behind Jennings and Driver.

You seem to forget that Davante played in an O with a real running game something the others didn't. That opens things.

Steve...Janis looked special doing something on an NFL field. Davante never has.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#27

Who was James Jones behind when he didn't measure up to Davante's numbers like you said? He outdid Davante's numbers behind Jennings and Driver.

You seem to forget that Davante played in an O with a real running game something the others didn't. That opens things.

Steve...Janis looked special doing something on an NFL field. Davante never has.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Lol whatever you say, I guess as long as you keep making little qualifiers and excuses for any of Davante's accomplishments while not applying the same treatment to Janis you'll always be right.

I will add that I would love for Janis to be better than Adams because I think Adams is going to be really good, he has the potential to be but I've got to see him do something (not even something special just something) against real NFL players before all those combine numbers mean anything at all. At this point he's just Jayrone Elliott at WR.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#28

Here is Davante Adams looking special in a NFL Playoff game. Something Jeff Janis has never done yet.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

And if his team didn't have a running game you'd say it benefitted him, because he was getting all the targets.:wink:

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

earthquake
Member

9 years ago

#30

Janis caught two catches for 16 yards in the regular season. He looked good in the preseason, but so have many others, most of whom did not go on to light the world on fire. Vic So'oto comes to mind. Will Janis be more like a Sam Shields than a Vic So'oto? It remains to be seen.

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