texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
I was surprised when the Packers drafted a wideout so high. I've since come to appreciate what Montgomery apparently brings to the team, but I still have a high opinion of Janis and Abbrederis, and I want to see a LOT of use of them. It pissed me off that Janis got such little use last season. Add to that at least two UDFAs with significant potential, and we have an embarrassment of riches at WR.

What I'm thinking/hoping is that the Packers increase the use of 3, 4, maybe even 5 WRs on the field at a time. With Aaron Rodgers' escapability and ability to throw on the run, we are better off that way than with TEs trying to go deep or staying in to block.
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gbguy20
9 years ago
Aside from our top 3 everyone else is an unknown at this point. The people on this forum always drool over the undrafted wrs and late founders. We could have great depth at we, or nothing behind the 3. I'm not giving in to the hype until I see it.
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steveishere
9 years ago
I'm interested in guys like Coxon and Pinkard at WR but until we see them on the field they are really nothing more than guys fighting for a spot on a practice squad. I think if Abbrederis gets/stays healthy he'll get some work this year because his skillset translates to being able to play pretty early in the NFL. Depending on Janis development he'll probably see more snaps and maybe even some plays designed for him but I expect Abby to get more snaps this year.

We are still in a pretty good spot though because if just one of Abby/Janis or a UDFA can play up to the level of a #4 (which isn't a crazy expectation) we've got the depth we need since Adams is sitting at #3 with the potential and ability of a #1 or 2.

Montgomery I have no idea, he has a college season where he looked like a beast and one where he looked like garbage. I think he'll get a lot of snaps on returns but other than that I have no idea if he'll contribute anything this year.
nerdmann
9 years ago

I'm interested in guys like Coxon and Pinkard at WR but until we see them on the field they are really nothing more than guys fighting for a spot on a practice squad. I think if Abbrederis gets/stays healthy he'll get some work this year because his skillset translates to being able to play pretty early in the NFL. Depending on Janis development he'll probably see more snaps and maybe even some plays designed for him but I expect Abby to get more snaps this year.

We are still in a pretty good spot though because if just one of Abby/Janis or a UDFA can play up to the level of a #4 (which isn't a crazy expectation) we've got the depth we need since Adams is sitting at #3 with the potential and ability of a #1 or 2.

Montgomery I have no idea, he has a college season where he looked like a beast and one where he looked like garbage. I think he'll get a lot of snaps on returns but other than that I have no idea if he'll contribute anything this year.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Abbrederis was supposed to make the team primarily as a returner. That looks like Montgomery's job now. Abby's gonna have to make the team straight up as a WR.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Abbrederis was supposed to make the team primarily as a returner. That looks like Montgomery's job now. Abby's gonna have to make the team straight up as a WR.

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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
I wish somebody would ask McCarthy/Clement/Bennett/whoever straight out, why didn't Janis - who appeared to have so much ability, get so little use last season? If he is somehow damaged goods or an attitude problem, I'd like to know about it.

ANY receiver is gonna look better with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him than he would be just about anywhere else. That includes our top three; That undoubtedly will include the 2nd year and rookie receivers - several of whom seem to have at least as much ability as Adams, for example.

My point which hasn't been addressed is that we are better off keeping six WRs and less TEs - using more 3, 4, and 5 wideout packages - given the extreme ability of Aaron Rodgers throwing and his proven escapability. I'd much rather see Janis or Abbrederis catch it 25 yards down field than one of the TEs. I'd also rather see 4 or 5 receivers running patterns and trust Aaron to avoid the pass rush than to keep a TE or FB in to block.
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

I wish somebody would ask McCarthy/Clement/Bennett/whoever straight out, why didn't Janis - who appeared to have so much ability, get so little use last season? If he is somehow damaged goods or an attitude problem, I'd like to know about it.

ANY receiver is gonna look better with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him than he would be just about anywhere else. That includes our top three; That undoubtedly will include the 2nd year and rookie receivers - several of whom seem to have at least as much ability as Adams, for example.

My point which hasn't been addressed is that we are better off keeping six WRs and less TEs - using more 3, 4, and 5 wideout packages - given the extreme ability of Aaron Rodgers throwing and his proven escapability. I'd much rather see Janis or Abbrederis catch it 25 yards down field than one of the TEs. I'd also rather see 4 or 5 receivers running patterns and trust Aaron to avoid the pass rush than to keep a TE or FB in to block.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I agree. To me it is the same mentality as the move to Clay inside at the end of last year. Why not dress your better guys and get your better guys on the field? If that means more WRs than TEs so be it. I understand the extra blocking our TEs do, but if Aaron can by himself some time I like the match-ups better with the WR talent we have. Not to beat a dead horse but I still think that Janis would have been a boost in the Seahawk game, especially with Cobb being well less than 100% at game time.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Jeff Janis didn't play because he couldn't add value on Special Teams and he wasn't better than Devante Adams and they were still high hoping Jarrett Boykin. You can't just add someone to the lineup, you have to add someone and replace someone. Gotta keep that in mind.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

Jeff Janis didn't play because he couldn't add value on Special Teams and he wasn't better than Devante Adams and they were still high hoping Jarrett Boykin. You can't just add someone to the lineup, you have to add someone and replace someone. Gotta keep that in mind.

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I wonder how much opportunity Janis got to show what he could do on special teams. He was big and fast and not known to lack toughness. I don't know why he couldn't have been at least a gunner and maybe a decent return man.

I don't have anything against Davante Adams, but I also question what he showed to be considered so much better than Janis. Adams looked pretty ordinary to me, and Janis looked special.


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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I wonder how much opportunity Janis got to show what he could do on special teams. He was big and fast and not known to lack toughness. I don't know why he couldn't have been at least a gunner and maybe a decent return man.

I don't have anything against Davante Adams, but I also question what he showed to be considered so much better than Janis. Adams looked pretty ordinary to me, and Janis looked special.

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Adams runs a better route than Janis. Janis has a lot more straight line speed which makes him look 'sexier' than Adams. I believe Janis had some fumbling issues with punt returns too so that will hurt your chances under any coaching staff.

I think it went down to Boykin vs Janis and Boykin had a really good season the one prior and was good on special teams coverage. If DuJuan Harris was a WR, I believe we would have seen Janis over Harris second half of season.
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