Just get rid of kickers· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

NFL passes competition committee proposal on PAT, moving kicks back to the 15. LOS for 2-pointers is still the 2, D can now score on them.

Great might as well move the goalposts and widen the field and add 3-4 CFL teams in expansion. Why can't they just leave the damn game alone and count their $$$ 🤬

Originally Posted by: wideside

This is stupid for TWO reasons.

1: First of all, you have to DECLARE what you are going to do. No lining up for a fake PaT, no surprise drop kick.

2: It's part of Goodell's all around process of Maddenizing the NFL.

Here's another one:
3: Weather is now a much bigger factor.

And one more:
4: Players are gonna start taking more shots at kickers during returns and whatnot.

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Porforis
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#12

The only teams going for 2 this year will be new England and Seattle, and I will be jealous as hell because our coach has his tail tucked between his legs.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Mason was 77% last year from 30-39. I'd expect slightly better than that from 32. I'd say we'd probably get 40% of our two point tries AT VERY BEST, we tend to not be able to run well in those situations which makes us more one dimensional. Packers were 1 for 3 last year and only 2-11 from 2010 - 2014 (they did go 3-5 in 2009).

With a split like that, you don't start going for 2 willy-nilly unless it's the second half and it's a situational decision based on score or if you're just well behind. Unless the Packers can prove they can get the two >50% of the time in which case go for it until you hit the middle of the fourth quarter in which case again, situationally.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#13

The only teams going for 2 this year will be new England and Seattle, and I will be jealous as hell because our coach has his tail tucked between his legs.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

When you're up by 16 with 5 minutes to go, why do you need to go for two?

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#14

I would assume that the success rate for a 32-yard field goal/new extra point would go up. Kickers have a set distance, in the center of the field to practice repeatedly. Less room for error kicking that much further away but I still think we won't see many teams going for a ton of 2 point conversions (unless they're way behind).

Originally Posted by: Porforis

Why would they make this change if they didn't plan on using the 2 point more?

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Porforis
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#15

Why would they make this change if they didn't plan on using the 2 point more?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I didn't say that they wouldn't use the 2 point more, I'm just saying that one shouldn't just straight up go for a 2 every time. If you're not good at something, doing something different that you're much better at (even if it doesn't get you QUITE as many points as when you succeed) isn't "lacking balls" as some people put it. Every situation should have a cost-benefit analysis. If it's the fourth quarter and that one extra point gets you up by another possession, absolutely. If it's the 2nd quarter and it's 7-6 after you scored a TD, if your team is really good at 2 pointers, sure go for two. If you suck at 2 pointers, take the high-percentage point.

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