PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
If the NFL implements the proposed changes to extra points there is no reason left to have a kicker. Moving the field goal back, making it less of a sure thing combined with the 47.5% success on 2 point conversions will make it almost a no brainer to attempt 2 points every chance. And if they use the Eagles idea of moving the ball to the 1 for 2 point conversions it would guarantee going for 2. last season there was a 57.5% success rate for plays run from the 1.
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Cheesey
10 years ago
You really can't get rid of kickers. The possible 3 points with a field goal is just one reason.
The extra point, even if it's moved back to the 15, is still an important point.

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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

You really can't get rid of kickers. The possible 3 points with a field goal is just one reason.
The extra point, even if it's moved back to the 15, is still an important point.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Just cross train punters. When over 50% of 2 point conversions are made, the 1 point extra point will cease to exist.


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Cheesey
10 years ago

Just cross train punters. When over 50% of 2 point conversions are made, the 1 point extra point will cease to exist.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



That's possible in the future. I just don't see that happening just yet.
As far as cross training punters, just because a guy can punt doesn't mean he can kick fieldgoals. If that were so, teams would have already done that to save a roster spot.
A 50plus yard fieldgoal that can win you the game is no "gimmee". Having a guy that is really good at it is still important at this time in the NFL.
It might change in the future, but who knows how long that might be.
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68md
10 years ago
NFL passes competition committee proposal on PAT, moving kicks back to the 15. LOS for 2-pointers is still the 2, D can now score on them.

Great might as well move the goalposts and widen the field and add 3-4 CFL teams in expansion. Why can't they just leave the damn game alone and count their $$$ 🤬
Porforis
10 years ago
I would assume that the success rate for a 32-yard field goal/new extra point would go up. Kickers have a set distance, in the center of the field to practice repeatedly. Less room for error kicking that much further away but I still think we won't see many teams going for a ton of 2 point conversions (unless they're way behind).
Porforis
10 years ago

That's possible in the future. I just don't see that happening just yet.
As far as cross training punters, just because a guy can punt doesn't mean he can kick fieldgoals. If that were so, teams would have already done that to save a roster spot.
A 50plus yard fieldgoal that can win you the game is no "gimmee". Having a guy that is really good at it is still important at this time in the NFL.
It might change in the future, but who knows how long that might be.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Plus not having a guy that can consistently make those 40-50 yard FGs with a decent shot of making a 50+ yarder really isn't countered on most teams by having one player that otherwise couldn't make his case for a roster spot. In order for that person to have any value he needs playing time - at best he'd be a second stringer for a position that usually doesn't need a second stringer, or a third/fourth stringer. That's generally not a lot. Plus, when you really need that depth, it's usually due to injury. If that person's on the DL/IR, you get to bring that guy in anyways (unless he got nabbed by another team in which case one should hope you have someone else around the same talent level).
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
At least the NFL is thinking of Safety for the players. Now when a defense blocks a kick or a failed two point attempt, they can risk injury by trying to go some 85+ yards to score ... TWO POINTS!!
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Porforis
10 years ago

At least the NFL is thinking of Safety for the players. Now when a defense blocks a kick or a failed two point attempt, they can risk injury by trying to go some 85+ yards to score ... TWO POINTS!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



They should make the defense return the ball back to their own endzone, then back to the offense's end zone to score to incentivize them not to return the blocked/intercepted/fumbled ball. For safety.
gbguy20
10 years ago
The only teams going for 2 this year will be new England and Seattle, and I will be jealous as hell because our coach has his tail tucked between his legs.
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