Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

Jon Gruden Really Never Saw That Whole 'You're Fired' Thing Coming

Posted Jan 20th 2009 1:45 AM by Will Brinson (author feed)
Filed Under: Buccaneers, NFL Coaching, NFL Media Watch

Jon Gruden's firing as head coach  of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers broke late on Friday, a seemingly shocking announcement, given not only the lack of rumors surrounding his job security, but the fact that the Bucs had been contending in the NFC South for almost his entire watch.

But he's gone now, and it turns out that he really, really never saw the firing squad lining up in front of him, according to Jay Glazer.

Sources told FOX Sports that Gruden had been interviewing prospective assistant coaches and actually hired former Bucs and Lions assistant Joe Barry about two hours before he was fired. Barry went as far as signing the deal then got on a plane only to land to the news that his new boss was now his new fired boss.

In addition, Gruden had told his assistants late in the week that he met with ownership and they had another year to right the Bucs' ship. That prediction obviously did not come to fruition.

Two hours. Two freaking hours! But while that all seems really spur-of-the-moment, it also appears that Gruden got, for lack of a better phrase, "told on" by many of his players. Reports seem to indicate that none of them could trust them (I can't possibly imagine Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese would disagree with that) based on him acting differently from what he would tell them.

Additionally, the Bucs absolutely floundered down the stretch in 2008 and, as we've seen, losing your locker room plus choking away a season won't do much for your job security.


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Cheesey
16 years ago
Well......i don't remember him getting a "vote of confidence"......you know.....which is the "kiss of death".

Maybe they didn't want to tell him till the last moment.....keeping him from going all "Chucky" on them.
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4PackGirl
16 years ago
wow - didn't really see this one comin but he's a "different" sort of a guy. can't imagine having HIM as my "boss".
Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
What I think is interesting is the coordinator who was tabbed to succeed Gruden (can't remember the name of the top of my head) told the Glazers that he didn't want to be promoted if that meant the demotion of his boss. They told him it didn't matter since the move had already been made. Nice to see he wasn't gunning for Gruden's head.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago
Did anyone see this coming?
I didn't. Anyone?
My man Donald Driver
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Packerchick
16 years ago

Did anyone see this coming?
I didn't. Anyone?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Neither did I.
I am a woman and I love football.
JNelson87
16 years ago
Same. How does Gruden get fired but Marvin Lewis keeps his job? They are both good coaches but I figured Marv woulda been one of the first 3 fired behind Marinelli and Crennel.
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Orygunfan76
16 years ago
Shafted!
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Pack93z
16 years ago

Same. How does Gruden get fired but Marvin Lewis keeps his job? They are both good coaches but I figured Marv woulda been one of the first 3 fired behind Marinelli and Crennel.

"JNelson87" wrote:



There is a reason the Bengals are annually an afterthought.. it starts and ends in the front office.. Mike Brown.

Marvin earned his right to be canned.. but Mike Brown has made the failings of Lewis look very pale.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
16 years ago
BTW... Gruden earned his right as well to be flushed.. not so much on the field but off it.. grade A jackass..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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