Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
9 years ago
How about this one (I kept this year's first, but gave up next years plus several other picks).

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 15 (S.F.): Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 30: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (A-)
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): Paul Dawson, OLB/ILB, TCU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 13 (CLE): Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 3 Pick 16 (K.C.): Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2 (N.E.): B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A)
Round 4 Pick 18 (S.D.): Davis Tull, OLB, Chattanooga (A)
Round 4 Pick 32 (N.E.): David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11 (CLE): Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 15 (S.F.): Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A)
Round 5 Pick 17 (S.D.): Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (A)
Round 6 Pick 8 (T.B.): Titus Davis, WR, Central Michigan (A+)
Round 6 Pick 20 (PHI): Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A-)
Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 37 (COMP): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 3 (JAX): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (A)

I don't like drafting only one OL, or spending a pick on a K (was BPA).
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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warhawk
9 years ago
My first thoughts are that no way 16 rookies will make it onto the roster anyhow. I'm not sure how many would or would have an impact but my guess is not many more than if you hadn't traded off future pics and just went with what they have to work with in the first place. I think it would be a huge feat if all 9 of the picks they have now make the team.

I think you also have to look at the strength of the draft class overall and also project the following years draft where you have given up picks. It's my understanding that the reason there aren't more round 1 quality players in 2015 is because several juniors went back to school. That's a pretty good start to a better draft year in 2016 than 2015. I would hate to be sitting there next year looking at a strong draft class and having given up picks to get more players out of an average class.

Waynes may turn out to be a great player but if it took this to get him he would have to be a GREAT player and the CB position is far to iffy to call for my comfort level. After all we had two good ones who weren't drafted at all and how many highly drafted and touted CB's have been taken over the last few years in the first couple rounds that didn't make it at all?

The MOST I would do is trade back into the 2nd and only them because it looks like the players at 35 to 45 are just as good as whoever they can get at #30. I would not, however, give up next year for this year just based on the quality of players.




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steveishere
9 years ago
I'm not sure I'd ever be cool with giving up a future 1st for a draft pick. You don't REALLY know how good these guys are going to be but most importantly you don't know who you are actually giving up in the trade. How disappointing would it be to trade next years 1st then Rodgers gets hurt early in the year or something and we end up losing out on some absolute beast in the top 10 the nxt season lol.

As far as your specific draft I like a few of the other CBs more than Waynes, that's a position I would wait for. Anthony/Dawson I like both, not sure who I like better though. It's weird because Anthony tested WAY more athletically than Dawson but if I never saw the numbers and you only showed me their game tapes I would say Dawson was more athletic without hesitation, he plays much faster.
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
9 years ago

My first thoughts are that no way 16 rookies will make it onto the roster anyhow. I'm not sure how many would or would have an impact but my guess is not many more than if you hadn't traded off future pics and just went with what they have to work with in the first place. I think it would be a huge feat if all 9 of the picks they have now make the team.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



FWIW here's what I just came up with with just the 9 picks they have now. Except for the first pick (where Kendricks was second only to Landon Collins of the players left), I went strictly BPA at the position.
Your score is: 7444 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30: Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA (B+)
Round 2 Pick 30: D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida (A+)
Round 3 Pick 30: Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A+)
Round 4 Pick 30: Senquez Golson, CB, Ole Miss (A)
Round 5 Pick 30: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A+)
Round 6 Pick 30: Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia (A)
Round 6 Pick 34 (COMP): Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (A)
Round 6 Pick 37 (COMP): Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Kaleb Eulls, DT/DE, Mississippi State (A)

I never said I expected every pick to make the team. I'd just rather bring more top-100 picks to camp rather than less, especially when I think the likely players available at #30 are not first round quality. (I love Kendricks, by the way; but I think he's middle-second, not #30. And I seriously doubt Humphries is going to fall to 62 or Walford to 97 or Gaines to the end of the 5th.

I think there are four players in this draft worth giving up a future first: Williams, Fowler, Beasley, and Waynes. I think there is only one worth giving up this year's first: Williams. (and as I've said in other threads, I think Williams is worth a lot more than one first.)



And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
PackerTraxx
9 years ago
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
The team would have to be filled with starters that are all locked up for the next 3 years, and the player available would have to be a Reggie White type player.
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