I wouldn't take either of these guys. What I do like about this is that it potentially sets us up for a nice haul of draft picks. Seattle will be right after us, and they do take risks like this. A team in Round 2 is going to fear Seattle is going to pluck either one of them and might offer us a substantial package to move down.
Originally Posted by: uffda udfa
I agree. I was just trying to point out that either of them is greater value than the other possibilities that are going to be there at 30. For me, most of the people I like for the Packers are "second round" or "third round" talent (and there are lots of them); and I'd rather get even one extra top 100 pick than stretch for a second rounder at #30.
So if one of these two guys is available at #30 and someone wants them enough to offer what means Ted will be able to get both a 2nd round ILB and a 2nd round CB, say, then I still would prefer trade down.
But if trading down isn't available (it takes two to tango, blah blah) at #30, I'd rather them take Gregory or Ray than spending #30 to get Stephone Anthony or Bernardick McKinney or P J Williams or Ronald Darby.
Every draft has people that so like a particular player that they'll overpay to move up. I want those people out there when the Pack is on the clock in both rounds 1 and 2.
(My ideal draft starts where one of those
people schmucks want pick #30 and that enables the Packers to get a Hendricks/Anthony/McKinney AND a Collins/Williams/Darby.)
It's not a perfect draft. A perfect draft for me would have Leonard Williams fall to #6 or farther, Ted trading next year's first and everything this year except for the first, taking Williams, then leveraging that thirtieth pick in round one to trade back for 3-4 top-100 picks and 2-3 picks in the late rounds.
(This may be the first time since I followed the draft where I think the Packers should trade a future #1 to move up; and its definitely the first time I've ever advocated a Lawrence Welk trade of two future #1s. I'm still not willing to give up two number ones if one of them is this year's, though.)
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