nerdmann
9 years ago

Now that he’s free from play-calling duties, Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy has been spending more time with his defensive coaches working to develop the long-term consistency his offense has established.

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Not exactly rocket science.
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steveishere
9 years ago
Hard to be consistent when Dom can't figure out which players are the best to use for half the season.
dhazer
9 years ago

Hard to be consistent when Dom can't figure out which players are the best to use for half the season.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



hard to decide who the best fit is when Ted Thompson don't get him players to fit. This will all fall on Dom as usual when it should all fall on the guy that gets the players.
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steveishere
9 years ago

hard to decide who the best fit is when Ted Thompson don't get him players to fit. This will all fall on Dom as usual when it should all fall on the guy that gets the players.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Half the season the defense is complete garbage and the other half after some adjustments it improves greatly. If there weren't good enough players in place any adjustments wouldn't have mattered but they did. Dom is ridiculously slow to make changes away from vets to younger guys sometimes which is a crap philosophy for a team that is constantly replacing players with draft picks. That's why I've wanted Dom gone for a while and replaced with someone who is more willing to be creative with young talented players. He might be a good coach but his style has never been a good fit for this team.
DakotaT
9 years ago

Half the season the defense is complete garbage and the other half after some adjustments it improves greatly. If there weren't good enough players in place any adjustments wouldn't have mattered but they did.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Last year's adjustment of putting Barrington and Clay at ILB, and relegating Hawk and Jones to the bench made an incredible difference in the defense. And all of us that have bitching about our weaknesses in the middle were somewhat vindicated for all the shit we've taken for our observations.

Moving forward, is Clay's best position ROLB full time or rover linebacker? I guess that all depends on Nick Perry and Mike Neal, and of course Julius Peppers. We have more talent on defense than we think we do, but improvements can always be made.

In the future, I would really rather not draft 4-3 defensive ends to play 3-4 OLB's. It makes no sense! When the Bears took McCullem ahead of us, the Packers should have traded out of the selection and not taken Nick Perry.
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steveishere
9 years ago

Last year's adjustment of putting Barrington and Clay at ILB, and relegating Hawk and Jones to the bench made an incredible difference in the defense. And all of us that have bitching about our weaknesses in the middle were somewhat vindicated for all the shit we've taken for our observations.

Moving forward, is Clay's best position ROLB full time or rover linebacker? I guess that all depends on Nick Perry and Mike Neal, and of course Julius Peppers. We have more talent on defense than we think we do, but improvements can always be made.

In the future, I would really rather not draft 4-3 defensive ends to play 3-4 OLB's. It makes no sense! When the Bears took McCullem ahead of us, the Packers should have traded out of the selection and not taken Nick Perry.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Clays best position is OLB but the defenses best position is him moving around. Even after he improved over the 2nd half of the season last year most of his production still came from rushing OLB but it was harder for the other team to keep track of him because he wasn't just doing the same thing over and over again.

Drafting 4-3 DEs makes plenty of sense. Few college teams run 3-4 defenses so most of the high school edge rushing prospects end up on 4-3 teams. Relegating your edge rusher possibilities to only 3-4 teams is stupid because that takes your pool of players down to a handful out of hundreds of possibilites.
beast
9 years ago

Honestly, I'm still wondering how Mike Neal and Sean Richardson would of done at ILB.

Runing downs for Neal and Passing downs for Richardson. Neal of might be the best blitzing ILB we've had as well. And Richardson might of been able to play spy LB in certain packages not letting the QB take off.


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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Clays best position is OLB but the defenses best position is him moving around. Even after he improved over the 2nd half of the season last year most of his production still came from rushing OLB but it was harder for the other team to keep track of him because he wasn't just doing the same thing over and over again.

Drafting 4-3 DEs makes plenty of sense. Few college teams run 3-4 defenses so most of the high school edge rushing prospects end up on 4-3 teams. Relegating your edge rusher possibilities to only 3-4 teams is stupid because that takes your pool of players down to a handful out of hundreds of possibilites.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



"Most of his production still came from rushing OLB?" what production are you referring to? Sure he gets more sacks and QB hurries from OLB, but he also gets more tackles and stuffs from ILB. from OLB he also get more failed to hold the edge for big gains or bites on fakes.

Clay or any players best position is where they do the most to help the team. It is to easy for a team to nullify Clay when he is OLB by chip blocking or running the ball. At ILB he has the best chance to impact every play.
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steveishere
9 years ago

"Most of his production still came from rushing OLB?" what production are you referring to? Sure he gets more sacks and QB hurries from OLB, but he also gets more tackles and stuffs from ILB. from OLB he also get more failed to hold the edge for big gains or bites on fakes.

Clay or any players best position is where they do the most to help the team. It is to easy for a team to nullify Clay when he is OLB by chip blocking or running the ball. At ILB he has the best chance to impact every play.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I mean he had 2.5 sacks before he started playing ILB and 8.5 after but most of those 8.5 he was still rushing from ROLB position. Which is why I said his best position is OLB but the team overall is better with him moving around.
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