We have no CBs and now what?· Page 5

porky88
Veteran Member

10 years ago

I don't think people realize just how good Casey Hayward is. The Packers have underutilized him for the last three years. He has the size and technique to play on the outside. I think this is a great opportunity for him to shine. Pending his health, I fully expect him to lead the team in interceptions next year.

Sam Shields and Hayward will play the outside and Micah Hyde will play the slot. That is a solid trio. The idea that you need to go four-deep at CB is silly. Few teams can go four-deep. Whoever the No. 4 guy is will be a developmental player. He'll likely be a rookie, as well. I do agree that they'll take a cornerback high, maybe even in the first round. Hayward is a free agent next offseason, and they need to make preparations in case he departs.

ILB and NT are the more dire positions. Who is the starting nose tackle?

http://www.row12.com/

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#42

Yeah when you run a 3-4 defense you kind of have to know that! ... I think it is BJ Raji

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

beast
Select Member

10 years ago

#43

Sam Shields and Hayward will play the outside and Micah Hyde will play the slot. That is a solid trio. The idea that you need to go four-deep at CB is silly.

Originally Posted by: porky88

I agree with most of what you said... but four deep at CB isn't silly... as sooner or later someshieldsbody is going to get banged up or hurt during the season and you're gonna need that fourth guy to step up and play.

In Shields 5 years he's played 15 games only once. So based on history it's very easy to suggest he could miss two games.

Also I remember an article written that basically said the Packers beat the Patriots because their depth at DB and the article made sense because the Packers could cover all the Patriots targets and the Patriots didn't have enough depth to keep Adams in check ... (so really it was the Patriots lack of depth, but the Packers had the depth to contain the Patriots (mostly) Gronk put up some number but less than 100 yards and the WRs were all kept under 50.)

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#44

I don't think it's silly to want 4 decent CBs but you also can expect that 4th to be someone without a ton of experience like a 2nd or 3rd year player who hasn't started or a recent high draft pick rookie. That's the way we've mostly done business over the years and I don't expect it to be much different this year.

As far as the Patriots game a whole lot more went into it than just their CBs. Notably our offensive line dominated the whole game.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#45

I admit Im a bit nervous about not having more then 1 starter corner ... we have bush but we all know hes not a great corner. I like tramon thought he was pretty good - we always stuck him or shields on their main guy.

Tramon has come along since al harris and woodson played the mains ... too bad hes gone.

Originally Posted by: Dulak

This won't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but Packers don't have Jarrett Bush either. He's a free agent, lol. (I think)

Defensive Backs
[list=1]

Shields, Sam

Hayward, Casey

Hyde, Micah

Burnett, Morgan

Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha

Goodson, Demetri

Glover-Wright, Tay

[*]Fanor, Jean [/list]

hardrocker950
Member

10 years ago

#46

This won't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but Packers don't have Jarrett Bush either. He's a free agent, lol. (I think)

Defensive Backs
[list=1]

Shields, Sam

Hayward, Casey

Hyde, Micah

Burnett, Morgan

Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha

Goodson, Demetri

Glover-Wright, Tay

Fanor, Jean [/list]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

While I think losing Williams hurts us at CB, I don't think this team is "doomed" because of it. Shields is still on the team, Hayward is no slouch, Goodson might show something, and Hyde is able to play multiple positions.

Combine the above and consider that Ted may find a cherry in the draft - I find the situation at ILB more disturbing at this point.

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#47

While I think losing Williams hurts us at CB, I don't think this team is "doomed" because of it. Shields is still on the team, Hayward is no slouch, Goodson might show something, and Hyde is able to play multiple positions.

Combine the above and consider that Ted may find a cherry in the draft - I find the situation at ILB more disturbing at this point.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950

porky88
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#48

Originally Posted by: beast

The reason I call it silly is that it is so rare for a team to have the kind of depth the Packers had a year ago. Eventually, someone was going to pay these guys. You can’t make it last forever. The 2011 receiving corps is another example.

Look at how the Packers built their corner depth. Williams and Shields were undrafted free agents. Well, they signed Williams after the Texans cut him but the point is that neither was a major signing. Hayward, Hyde, and House were all draft picks.

Is it unreasonable to expect Thompson to pluck a cornerback out of the draft this year? Maybe he found that guy last year in Demetri Goodson.

http://www.row12.com/

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#49

Originally Posted by: porky88

Which is why it's so important to play up to the team's potential and not piss SB opportunities away.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#50

lol I'm just saying be fair. If you want to compare 2 players don't say one guy is bad because of whatever reason and make it a big deal then ignore it if the guy you like more is also bad at that.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I get it. yeah, its kind of amazing what is important to fans regarding one player suddenly becomes less so when its their favorite player that is involved in the same thing or performs in the same way ( to keep it about on field production) Or should I say something similar because in their minds it is never the same. It's always worse with the player they like least.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

dfosterf (19h) : We do have good depth at running back imo. Still so frustrating. Bitching about it is a futile excercise, which I plan to do anyway.

Mucky Tundra (17-Aug) : Whoops, I thought Zero was saying it was a surprise the Brewers lost and not Lloyd being hurt

Mucky Tundra (17-Aug) : Not a surprise; inevitable

Zero2Cool (17-Aug) : Brewers streak ends at 14

Zero2Cool (17-Aug) : SURPRISE

Mucky Tundra (17-Aug) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on MarShawn Lloyd: “He’s gonna miss some time.”

Mucky Tundra (16-Aug) : CLIFFORD WITH THE TD WITH UNDER 2 TO GO!!!!!

Zero2Cool (16-Aug) : 90 MINUTES UNTIL FAKE KICKOFF!!

Martha Careful (16-Aug) : I think Ruven is a bot, but regardless should be stricken from the site.

Zero2Cool (14-Aug) : Packers RB Josh Jacobs ranked No. 33 in NFL 'Top 100'

dfosterf (13-Aug) : The LVN Musgrave collision- Andy Herman said Musgrave seemed to be the one most impacted injury-wise

dfosterf (13-Aug) : a lower back injury

dfosterf (13-Aug) : Doubs says he's "fine" after injury scare. Some reported it as z

Mucky Tundra (13-Aug) : With LVN that is; need to see what happens in the next practice

Mucky Tundra (13-Aug) : beast, reading about what happened, it sounded like one of those "two guys collide and are moving slow afterwards" type of deals

beast (12-Aug) : I believe Musgrave has been injured every single season since at least a Sophomore in highschool

packerfanoutwest (12-Aug) : Matt LaFleur: “Highly unlikely” Jordan Love plays more this preseason

dfosterf (12-Aug) : Doubs, Savion Williams, LVN, Musgrave all banged up to one degree or another, missing one here I forget

Zero2Cool (12-Aug) : RB Tyrion Davis-Price is signing with the Green Bay Packers.

Zero2Cool (12-Aug) : zero help, dominated. preseason

beast (12-Aug) : QB Jordan Love has surgery

beast (12-Aug) : Martha said Morgan had a lot of help, I didn't watch the OL so I can't say.

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers LT Jordan Morgan did not allow a single pressure across 23 pass-blocking snaps vs. Jets last night, per PFF

Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : With buckeye and the reasonable couple, we're currently sitting at 10

buckeyepackfan (10-Aug) : Just posted to re-up on our FFL.

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : If healthy after, then thats all I care. Well, no drops would be nice

wpr (10-Aug) : I made it through the 1st Q.

dfosterf (10-Aug) : Just gotta figure out how.

dfosterf (10-Aug) : Could have been a worse start, so there is that.

beast (10-Aug) : Yeah, someone tell the Packers football season has started, seems like they weren't ready for it

Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : Sooooooo many penalties

Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : It may only be preseason, but this game is a trip to the dentist

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do bad -- FREAK OUT!!!!!!

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do good -- eh only preseason

dfosterf (10-Aug) : Well that half was fun

Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Great, zayne is down

Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : 13 minutes away from kickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkoffff

Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Had Celebration of Life for my uncle up north. wicked rain hope it dont come south

Mucky Tundra (9-Aug) : THE GREEN BAY PACKERS ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL TONIGHT!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!

Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Woo-hoo

TheKanataThrilla (9-Aug) : NFL Network is broadcasting the game tonight, but not in Canada. Not sure why as no local television is showing the game.

beast (8-Aug) : But the Return from IR designations had to be applied by the 53 man cutdown.

beast (8-Aug) : It's a new rule, so it's not clear, but my understanding was that they could be IR'd at any time

Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : *had to be IRed at 53

Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : beast, I thought the designate return from IR players had to be IR at cutdowns to 53, not before

beast (8-Aug) : It's a brand new rule, either last season or this season, prior, all pre-season IRs were done for the season

beast (8-Aug) : But the Packers would have to use one for their return from IR spots on him, when they cut down to 53.

beast (8-Aug) : I think the NFL recently changed the IR rules, so maybe the season might not be over for OL Glover.

Zero2Cool (8-Aug) : Packers star Howton, first NFLPA prez, dies at 95 😔

dfosterf (8-Aug) : Apparently it is too complicated for several to follow your simple instructions, but I digress

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings