We have no CBs and now what?· Page 5

porky88
Veteran Member

9 years ago

I don't think people realize just how good Casey Hayward is. The Packers have underutilized him for the last three years. He has the size and technique to play on the outside. I think this is a great opportunity for him to shine. Pending his health, I fully expect him to lead the team in interceptions next year.

Sam Shields and Hayward will play the outside and Micah Hyde will play the slot. That is a solid trio. The idea that you need to go four-deep at CB is silly. Few teams can go four-deep. Whoever the No. 4 guy is will be a developmental player. He'll likely be a rookie, as well. I do agree that they'll take a cornerback high, maybe even in the first round. Hayward is a free agent next offseason, and they need to make preparations in case he departs.

ILB and NT are the more dire positions. Who is the starting nose tackle?

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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#42

Yeah when you run a 3-4 defense you kind of have to know that! ... I think it is BJ Raji

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beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#43

Sam Shields and Hayward will play the outside and Micah Hyde will play the slot. That is a solid trio. The idea that you need to go four-deep at CB is silly.

Originally Posted by: porky88

I agree with most of what you said... but four deep at CB isn't silly... as sooner or later someshieldsbody is going to get banged up or hurt during the season and you're gonna need that fourth guy to step up and play.

In Shields 5 years he's played 15 games only once. So based on history it's very easy to suggest he could miss two games.

Also I remember an article written that basically said the Packers beat the Patriots because their depth at DB and the article made sense because the Packers could cover all the Patriots targets and the Patriots didn't have enough depth to keep Adams in check ... (so really it was the Patriots lack of depth, but the Packers had the depth to contain the Patriots (mostly) Gronk put up some number but less than 100 yards and the WRs were all kept under 50.)

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#44

I don't think it's silly to want 4 decent CBs but you also can expect that 4th to be someone without a ton of experience like a 2nd or 3rd year player who hasn't started or a recent high draft pick rookie. That's the way we've mostly done business over the years and I don't expect it to be much different this year.

As far as the Patriots game a whole lot more went into it than just their CBs. Notably our offensive line dominated the whole game.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#45

I admit Im a bit nervous about not having more then 1 starter corner ... we have bush but we all know hes not a great corner. I like tramon thought he was pretty good - we always stuck him or shields on their main guy.

Tramon has come along since al harris and woodson played the mains ... too bad hes gone.

Originally Posted by: Dulak

This won't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but Packers don't have Jarrett Bush either. He's a free agent, lol. (I think)

Defensive Backs
[list=1]

Shields, Sam

Hayward, Casey

Hyde, Micah

Burnett, Morgan

Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha

Goodson, Demetri

Glover-Wright, Tay

[*]Fanor, Jean [/list]

hardrocker950
Member

9 years ago

#46

This won't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but Packers don't have Jarrett Bush either. He's a free agent, lol. (I think)

Defensive Backs
[list=1]

Shields, Sam

Hayward, Casey

Hyde, Micah

Burnett, Morgan

Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha

Goodson, Demetri

Glover-Wright, Tay

Fanor, Jean [/list]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

While I think losing Williams hurts us at CB, I don't think this team is "doomed" because of it. Shields is still on the team, Hayward is no slouch, Goodson might show something, and Hyde is able to play multiple positions.

Combine the above and consider that Ted may find a cherry in the draft - I find the situation at ILB more disturbing at this point.

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#47

While I think losing Williams hurts us at CB, I don't think this team is "doomed" because of it. Shields is still on the team, Hayward is no slouch, Goodson might show something, and Hyde is able to play multiple positions.

Combine the above and consider that Ted may find a cherry in the draft - I find the situation at ILB more disturbing at this point.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950

porky88
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#48

Originally Posted by: beast

The reason I call it silly is that it is so rare for a team to have the kind of depth the Packers had a year ago. Eventually, someone was going to pay these guys. You can’t make it last forever. The 2011 receiving corps is another example.

Look at how the Packers built their corner depth. Williams and Shields were undrafted free agents. Well, they signed Williams after the Texans cut him but the point is that neither was a major signing. Hayward, Hyde, and House were all draft picks.

Is it unreasonable to expect Thompson to pluck a cornerback out of the draft this year? Maybe he found that guy last year in Demetri Goodson.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#49

Originally Posted by: porky88

Which is why it's so important to play up to the team's potential and not piss SB opportunities away.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

#50

lol I'm just saying be fair. If you want to compare 2 players don't say one guy is bad because of whatever reason and make it a big deal then ignore it if the guy you like more is also bad at that.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I get it. yeah, its kind of amazing what is important to fans regarding one player suddenly becomes less so when its their favorite player that is involved in the same thing or performs in the same way ( to keep it about on field production) Or should I say something similar because in their minds it is never the same. It's always worse with the player they like least.

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