We have no CBs and now what?· Page 5

porky88
Veteran Member

9 years ago

I don't think people realize just how good Casey Hayward is. The Packers have underutilized him for the last three years. He has the size and technique to play on the outside. I think this is a great opportunity for him to shine. Pending his health, I fully expect him to lead the team in interceptions next year.

Sam Shields and Hayward will play the outside and Micah Hyde will play the slot. That is a solid trio. The idea that you need to go four-deep at CB is silly. Few teams can go four-deep. Whoever the No. 4 guy is will be a developmental player. He'll likely be a rookie, as well. I do agree that they'll take a cornerback high, maybe even in the first round. Hayward is a free agent next offseason, and they need to make preparations in case he departs.

ILB and NT are the more dire positions. Who is the starting nose tackle?

http://www.row12.com/

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#42

Yeah when you run a 3-4 defense you kind of have to know that! ... I think it is BJ Raji

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#43

Sam Shields and Hayward will play the outside and Micah Hyde will play the slot. That is a solid trio. The idea that you need to go four-deep at CB is silly.

Originally Posted by: porky88

I agree with most of what you said... but four deep at CB isn't silly... as sooner or later someshieldsbody is going to get banged up or hurt during the season and you're gonna need that fourth guy to step up and play.

In Shields 5 years he's played 15 games only once. So based on history it's very easy to suggest he could miss two games.

Also I remember an article written that basically said the Packers beat the Patriots because their depth at DB and the article made sense because the Packers could cover all the Patriots targets and the Patriots didn't have enough depth to keep Adams in check ... (so really it was the Patriots lack of depth, but the Packers had the depth to contain the Patriots (mostly) Gronk put up some number but less than 100 yards and the WRs were all kept under 50.)

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#44

I don't think it's silly to want 4 decent CBs but you also can expect that 4th to be someone without a ton of experience like a 2nd or 3rd year player who hasn't started or a recent high draft pick rookie. That's the way we've mostly done business over the years and I don't expect it to be much different this year.

As far as the Patriots game a whole lot more went into it than just their CBs. Notably our offensive line dominated the whole game.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#45

I admit Im a bit nervous about not having more then 1 starter corner ... we have bush but we all know hes not a great corner. I like tramon thought he was pretty good - we always stuck him or shields on their main guy.

Tramon has come along since al harris and woodson played the mains ... too bad hes gone.

Originally Posted by: Dulak

This won't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but Packers don't have Jarrett Bush either. He's a free agent, lol. (I think)

Defensive Backs
[list=1]

Shields, Sam

Hayward, Casey

Hyde, Micah

Burnett, Morgan

Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha

Goodson, Demetri

Glover-Wright, Tay

[*]Fanor, Jean [/list]

hardrocker950
Member

9 years ago

#46

This won't make you feel warm and fuzzy, but Packers don't have Jarrett Bush either. He's a free agent, lol. (I think)

Defensive Backs
[list=1]

Shields, Sam

Hayward, Casey

Hyde, Micah

Burnett, Morgan

Clinton-Dix, Ha Ha

Goodson, Demetri

Glover-Wright, Tay

Fanor, Jean [/list]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

While I think losing Williams hurts us at CB, I don't think this team is "doomed" because of it. Shields is still on the team, Hayward is no slouch, Goodson might show something, and Hyde is able to play multiple positions.

Combine the above and consider that Ted may find a cherry in the draft - I find the situation at ILB more disturbing at this point.

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#47

While I think losing Williams hurts us at CB, I don't think this team is "doomed" because of it. Shields is still on the team, Hayward is no slouch, Goodson might show something, and Hyde is able to play multiple positions.

Combine the above and consider that Ted may find a cherry in the draft - I find the situation at ILB more disturbing at this point.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950

porky88
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#48

Originally Posted by: beast

The reason I call it silly is that it is so rare for a team to have the kind of depth the Packers had a year ago. Eventually, someone was going to pay these guys. You can’t make it last forever. The 2011 receiving corps is another example.

Look at how the Packers built their corner depth. Williams and Shields were undrafted free agents. Well, they signed Williams after the Texans cut him but the point is that neither was a major signing. Hayward, Hyde, and House were all draft picks.

Is it unreasonable to expect Thompson to pluck a cornerback out of the draft this year? Maybe he found that guy last year in Demetri Goodson.

http://www.row12.com/

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#49

Originally Posted by: porky88

Which is why it's so important to play up to the team's potential and not piss SB opportunities away.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

#50

lol I'm just saying be fair. If you want to compare 2 players don't say one guy is bad because of whatever reason and make it a big deal then ignore it if the guy you like more is also bad at that.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I get it. yeah, its kind of amazing what is important to fans regarding one player suddenly becomes less so when its their favorite player that is involved in the same thing or performs in the same way ( to keep it about on field production) Or should I say something similar because in their minds it is never the same. It's always worse with the player they like least.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (3h) : Eagles WR DeVonta Smith will be a DNP in today’s practice. He’s dealing with back tightness. But the expectation is that he’ll play Sunday.

Zero2Cool (4h) : Jalen Hurts has cleared the concussion protocol. He’s playing Sunday.

Zero2Cool (4h) : 𝕏avier McKinney First Team All-Pro

Zero2Cool (8h) : NFL moves Vikings-Rams playoff tilt to Arizona due to fires

Zero2Cool (8h) : Rams lose home field advantage for Monday game.

Mucky Tundra (23h) : Notre Lame=Notre Dame, Luckeyes=Ohio State, Pedo St=Penn St

Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : ... It clearly was not what we were supposed to be in, certainly."

Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : Hafley says 3rd and 11 call there was a miscommunication.

Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : The only team I know is Texas from that. Who are the other three?

Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame vs Pedo St tonight and the Luckeyes vs Texas tomorrow

Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Stud

Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : E. Cooper. Rookie of Month. Defense.

Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : @AaronNagler · 2m Both Jordan Love and Malik Willis were Limited participants at Packers practice today.

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Johnson didn't make it until 2020. Ring 2023. 🤷 Personally, he should have been in years prior to Hall.

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : HUMP DAY

beast (8-Jan) : Guys that have a good shot at making the NFL Hall of Fame usually get into their teams pretty fast

beast (8-Jan) : Yeah, but is Kampman and the others in the NFL Hall of Fame?

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Johnson was Hall of Fame, 2020. Should haev been in Ring a year later, not three years.

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : I could be wrong there though

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Guys like Kampman, Tim Harris, Al Harris, etc all over 15 years. Hall of Fame is 5 year wait

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : I guess I see players in Packers Hall come way later

beast (8-Jan) : Yeah, usually teams hall of fames are a much lower bar than the NFL

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : is it uncommon for Hall before Ring?

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : S Xavier McKinney named first-team All-Pro by NFLPA

beast (8-Jan) : I missed it, sorry, but he got into the NFL Hall of Fame years before that

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Jones took his sweet ole time!

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Yeah, he's in the ring of honor, just saw video and his name is up there

Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Didn't they have a thing in 2023 for Jimmy's ring of honor? I swear I saw it

beast (8-Jan) : Though if they're legitimately trying to re-sign MM, then it makes sense.

beast (8-Jan) : Jerry Jones still hasn't put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor, but he's in the NFL's Hall of Fame, Jones is petty

Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : Unless the Cowboys are planning an extension, seems kinda petty

beast (8-Jan) : Cowboys denied Bears request

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : From what I'm reading, MM is under contract through the 14th of January; after that he's free game

Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : McCarthy let go or not extended??

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Chicago Bears have asked the Dallas Cowboys permission to interview Mike McCarthy for head coaching vacancy

Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : The winners page that is

Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I was not hoping for that. It messes up the page lol

beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.

beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3

Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats beast on 2024 !

Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats porky on winning 2023 pick'em! (oops sorry)

Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Packers have $60M+ of 2025 cap space on paper TODAY.

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Missed FG into a Lions TD; that'll do pig, that'll do

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : That might be it for the Vikings

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Oh so the refs do know what intentional grounding is

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : what the hell was that Goff?! Not much pressure and he just air mails it to Harrison

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : They really need to to get rid of the auto first down for illegal contact

Martha Careful (6-Jan) : watching the Vikings and Lions it's understandable why they swept the Packers. So much better product

Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Even when GB got pressure he was throwing darts; vs no pressure on that last pass he just air mails an open guy

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24