texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Put this where it is most appropriate - there is a Packer aspect now too with the Wolf tweet.

I'm surprised there isn't already a thread about this.

I always liked Borland with the Badgers, and I'm not gonna say anything bad about him now. It's his body/his head/his decision - and he has made over a million in one year career of salary and bonus. Any of us could easily start out with a million head start and cruise into a decent normal comfortable life. I'm sure he can too. On the other hand, he could certainly have made 5 or 10 or 20 or 50 times that much with only a tiny risk of any ill effects. His choice.

I have often said, I will never feel sorry for any NFL player or other athlete damaged by injury, head or other, because they are so EXTREMELY well compensated for playing a game any of us would love to play for a tiny fraction of the money. And besides, if they are concerned about the long term effects, they can always quit. Well, somebody now did ....... and I don't feel sorry for him either.

Some people - dumbasses I would call them - act like this will and even should be a problem for the future of the NFL. Eliot Wolf's tweet dealt with that, and apparently turned off some of those dumbasses. There are so very very few examples of long term harm from head injury, and such a very very high reward for playing that fun game that I really don't see some sinister trend that is a threat to football as we know it.
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musccy
9 years ago
I too was a little shocked a thread wasn't started (then again I was too lazy to start one).

I think this has the potential to be somewhat of a trend setter among active players where they're more willing to walk away a year too soon than a year too late but Wolf raises a good point - for every Borland or Locker there are dozens, hell, hundreds of players wanting to fill their shoes.

If this was a Packer, I'd be pissed, but sitting in a more objective position I give him credit for having the guts to do this. I'm sure telling his teammates, the GM, etc. wasn't an easy thing to do. It's hard to argue with his line of thinking...just a matter of whether the risk is as great as he perceives it to be.
TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
I had to admit that with 2 quick retirements in a row I was thinking people were just trying to get away from the freak show that is becoming San Fran. This just comes so out of the blue it is hard not to think something is amiss. You'd think this announcement would have came out much earlier so the organization could better deal with it. Makes me curious if there was an issue between Borland and the organization.
GermanGilbert
9 years ago

Some people - dumbasses I would call them - act like this will and even should be a problem for the future of the NFL. Eliot Wolf's tweet dealt with that, and apparently turned off some of those dumbasses. There are so very very few examples of long term harm from head injury, and such a very very high reward for playing that fun game that I really don't see some sinister trend that is a threat to football as we know it.



I, on the flip side, fully respect his decision. He was afraid of his health and wanted to keep the risk down. At least he keeps the money he got compared to other guys, like Worilds, who quit the job because they wanted to lose all their money being a Jehova's whitnesses preacher. :signduh:


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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Never have a problem with a person making a decision they feel is best for them. Since Borland wasn't a high priced player, but if more like Willis who have bigger contracts start walking away, there is going to be a big impact on contracts for future players. Who is going to want to give 20, 30 or more in guaranteed money for a 4 or 5 year deal when that player could walk away after 1 and the teams are not only out that money without the player, they have to eat an accelerated hit to the cap with it.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

I, on the flip side, fully respect his decision. He was afraid of his health and wanted to keep the risk down. At least he keeps the money he got compared to other guys, like Worilds, who quit the job because they wanted to lose all their money being a Jehova's whitnesses preacher. :signduh:

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert 



I didn't mean to imply anything against Borland or for that matter, others deciding like he did. The "dumbasses" I referred to were the string of commenters attached to the article I read in Yahoo, indirectly about Borland, but mainly criticizing Wolf for his tweet.


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nyrpack
9 years ago
its his body , he has every right to do what he wants, best of luck to him !!
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