greengold
9 years ago
Well, Barclay is a free agent. I haven't seen Tretter take too many snaps at tackle.

Man I wish some team would just give you a job as GM already.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

Well, Barclay is a free agent. I haven't seen Tretter take too many snaps at tackle.

Man I wish some team would just give you a job as GM already.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



Ha! I would still be here to make your experience more enjoyable.

Tretter was a very hot draft choice and looked to be living up to his billing as a heckuva young player. He was the guy on the Mario Williams sack that ended our weak comeback effort vs. Buffalo. Still, he is young athletic, moreso than BB will ever be, and highly intelligent. I would have no hesitation letting Bryan Bulaga walk knowing I have him and could sign Barclay for peanuts.

Why do you want to pay 7 million so badly for him? Why? He'll just sit on IR collecting the money.




UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


musccy
9 years ago

Well, Barclay is a free agent. I haven't seen Tretter take too many snaps at tackle.

Man I wish some team would just give you a job as GM already.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



Doesn't mean Barclay won't be re-signed. We still don't KNOW the BB is coming back. For all we know, Ted Thompson has the faith in DB that uffda does and will go for the discount at tackle. Barclay wasn't too bad when he filled in before.
greengold
9 years ago
Bulaga is the best tackle we have. Keeping Rodgers upright is my agenda.

I hope we can sign him for a discount but $7M is not unreasonable if you look around the league.

texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
I don't think he will get quite $7 million if/when he signs - maybe a back loaded 5 year deal where he isn't around for the last year or two.
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
beast
9 years ago

Tretter was a very hot draft choice and looked to be living up to his billing as a heckuva young player... Still, he is young athletic, moreso than BB will ever be, and highly intelligent. I would have no hesitation letting Bryan Bulaga walk knowing I have him and could sign Barclay for peanuts.

Why do you want to pay 7 million so badly for him? Why? He'll just sit on IR collecting the money.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



So you're suggesting the problem is Bulaga injury history of playing only 65% of his games and the solution is plugging in Tretter who's own injury history has only let him play 25% of his games? Smart!



UserPostedImage
beast
9 years ago

Barclay wasn't too bad when he filled in before.

Originally Posted by: musccy 


Depends on how you define "too bad" ... in pass protection, Barclay often needed help in pass protection against decent rushers and so had the TE or RB help chip block Barclay's guy on most passing downs which slowed down or stopped a receiving option from going out and meant the other linemen didn't have help if they needed it. Barclay was good in run blocking.

Let's compare:

In Bulaga three years of starting at least 75% of the season: Rodgers has won two MVPs and one Super Bowl

In Barclay one year of starting at least 75% of the season: Rodgers has had one of his worst TD to INT ratios of the last four years, the worst QB rating over the last four years and the most missed games due to injury as the Barclay's DE got away from him and pounded Rodgers into the dirt.


UserPostedImage
musccy
9 years ago

So you're suggesting the problem is Bulaga injury history of playing only 65% of his games and the solution is plugging in Tretter who's own injury history has only let him play 25% of his games? Smart!


Originally Posted by: beast 



Tretter would also be fractions of the cost. I agree with uffda on this one even if we can pick at holes in his argument. Personally, I prefer BB back, but at a reasonable price and I acknowledge Tretter and Barclay combined are going to be less than 1 BB, with arguably as much versatility, maybe more.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

Bulaga is the best tackle we have. Keeping Rodgers upright is my agenda.

I hope we can sign him for a discount but $7M is not unreasonable if you look around the league.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



When I look around the league I don't see RT's who have missed almost 2 full seasons due to injury getting 7 million dollars. Bulaga is a RT...not a LT. If he was a successful LT he would be getting more than 7 million and playing LT. He's not.

I will ask again...do you think the drop off from Barclay and or Tretter to Bulaga is worth around 5 million extra? I absolutely don't. If we had NOBODY at RT then I could see having to pay the uncomfortable number we had to give Randall. These situations couldn't be more different. If you're right and Ted Thompson is as frugal and smart with his money as is claimed, then why would he waste it on BB when he can get close to comparable value for much less? It is why he doesn't dabble in regular FA...he thinks he has guys who are as good or will be as good as the ones he'd pay ridiculous money to. With that in mind, think about how that plays with what he has available at RT. Doesn't make sense to pay it UNLESS he likes the comfort of knowing BB could play mediocre LT if Bak goes down, knowing we have Tretter, and most likely Barclay to play RT if he slid over.
UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


musccy
9 years ago

Depends on how you define "too bad" ... in pass protection, Barclay often needed help in pass protection against decent rushers and so had the TE or RB help chip block Barclay's guy on most passing downs which slowed down or stopped a receiving option from going out and meant the other linemen didn't have help if they needed it. Barclay was good in run blocking.

Let's compare:

In Bulaga three years of starting at least 75% of the season: Rodgers has won two MVPs and one Super Bowl

In Barclay one year of starting at least 75% of the season: Rodgers has had one of his worst TD to INT ratios of the last four years, the worst QB rating over the last four years and the most missed games due to injury as the Barclay's DE got away from him and pounded Rodgers into the dirt.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Assuming you're referring to 2013, this was one of the most injury-plagued seasons the Packers had and was the reason Mike McCarthy made huge changes to nutrition, strength and conditioning, and practice schedules.
Fan Shout
beast (16h) : I haven't followed, but I believe he's good when healthy, just hasn't been able to stay healthy.
dfosterf (20-Feb) : Hasn"t Bosa missed more games than he has played in the last 3 years?
Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : He hasn't been too bad when healthy but I don't feel like I ever heard much about when he is
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Felt like he was more interested in his body, than football. He flashed more than I expected
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : When he was coming out, I thought he'd be flash in pan.
Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : Joey seems so forgettable compared to his brother for some reason
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : NFL informed teams today that the 2025 salary cap will be roughly $277.5M-$281.5M
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Los Angeles Chargers are likely to release DE Joey Bosa this off-season as a cap casualty, per league source.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : If the exploit is not fixed, we'll see tons of "50 top free agents, 50 perfect NFL team fits: We picked where each should sign in March" lo
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Issue should be solved, database cleaned and held strong working / meeting. Boom!
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : It should be halted now.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : usually spambots are trying to get traffic to shady websites filled with spyware; the two links being spammed were to the Packers website
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : you know when you put it that way combined with the links it was spamming (to the official Packers website)
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yep. You can do that with holding down ENTER on a command in Console of browser
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : even with the rapid fire posts?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I'm not certain it's a bot.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I've got to go to work soon which is a pity because I'm enthralled by this battle between the bot and Zero
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, I see what that did. Kind of funny.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : now it's a link to Wes Hodkiezwicz mailbag
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Now they're back with another topic
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : oh lol
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I have a script that purges them now.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : 118 Topics with Message.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : what's 118 (besides a number)?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : They got 118 slapped in there.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : that's why it confused the hell out of me
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, but this is taking a headline and slapping it into the Packers Talk
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Wasnt there a time guests could post in the help forum?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : lol good question, kind of impressed!
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : So how is a guest posting?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Tell them its an emergency
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Working. Meetings.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Lots of fun; the spam goes back 4 or 5 pages by this point
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought you'd look for yourself and put 2 and 2 together lol. I overestimated ya ;)
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought Guests couldnt post?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : And gosh that's gonna be fun to clean up! hahaa
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Oh. Why not just say that then? Geez.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : check the main forum, seems a spam bot is running amok
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : What?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Is the Packers online game "Packers Predict" now available for 2024? I can't tell
Zero2Cool (17-Feb) : Bengals planning to Franchise Tag Tamaurice Higgins
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / MintBaconDrivel

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-Feb / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.