Zero2Cool
10 years ago


Packers are promoting offesnive coordinator Tom Clements to Associate Head Coach AND will take over offensive play-calling duties.

Additionally, Packers are promoting wide receivers coach Edgar Bennett to offensive coordinator.


If true, I give Mike McCarthy a lot of respect for this change.











UPDATED: Clements is set to be ASSOCIATE Head Coach whereas Winston Moss is ASSISTANT Head Coach.





UserPostedImage
+1
nerdmann
10 years ago
I'll support it, but it seems cockamamie.

First of all, Clements is a dud. Why are they having him call plays? The whole point of "promoting" him is to get him somewhere where he can't shit himself.

Secondly, why Edgar Bennett? Don't get me wrong, I love Edgar, and I think he's future HC material for sure. But let's face it, he's never been QB coach, which is the normal step before OC. Then again, he's coached RBs and WRs, so he's got plenty of experience in the offense. Maybe he's also got seniority over Alex van Pelt.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
10 years ago
This crap doesn't make any sense. Why do they have to be so weird with their assitants and titles all the time. Always shifting guys around and coming up with new titles. If Clements becomes associate head coach what happens to Winston Moss being assistant HC? Why do you need to promote Clements to begin with just to have him call plays? Isn't that what an OC usually is anyways? So if they promote Edgar Bennett then I guess we are going to need to add yet another assitant to coach WRs. If this keeps up were going to have 3 or 4 assitant Head Coaches and a couple assitant coordinators to the assistants of the actual coordinators. So weird.
+1
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

This crap doesn't make any sense. Why do they have to be so weird with their assitants and titles all the time. Always shifting guys around and coming up with new titles. If Clements becomes associate head coach what happens to Winston Moss being assistant HC? Why do you need to promote Clements to begin with just to have him call plays? Isn't that what an OC usually is anyways? So if they promote Edgar Bennett then I guess we are going to need to add yet another assitant to coach WRs. If this keeps up were going to have 3 or 4 assitant Head Coaches and a couple assitant coordinators to the assistants of the actual coordinators. So weird.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



This is quite common within the NFL. You'll find few teams with what you feel is normal structure.
UserPostedImage
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
Yeah this seems really odd. Does this mean Edgar has the responsibility of drawing up the game plan during the week with Clements calling plays on game day? Are they both gonna be in the box or just Clements? All that said, I'm happy Edgar is getting more responsibility. I just hope our WRs don't go back to have the dropsies every game like they used to.
Under Construction!
packerfanoutwest
10 years ago
this is a very good thing. I've been saying for the last 5 years that he needs to give up the "clip board" and focus on all the other HC duties......About time MM starts to really focus.
+1
beast
10 years ago
Is this official yet? or still rumors?

Packers lead the NFL in points scored last year. I'm not sure this is the best move for the offense. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Additionally, Packers are promoting wide receivers coach Edgar Bennett to offensive coordinator.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


So... who's the new WR coach?
Packers Offensive Quality Control person, Luke Getsy, was WR coach for a year at Western Michigan and QB coach two years at Indiana (PA).

why Edgar Bennett?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


My guess is because (MM said) Bennett has been in a large part of their running game strategy/planning even while being the WR coach. So the fact that he's been large part of both the running game and passing game. Also I'm not sure you want him as the OL coach. And the only other long time guys without a recent jump in positions was James Campen with the OL, and you might want to keep him in place.

Clements is a dud. Why are they having him call plays? The whole point of "promoting" him is to get him somewhere where he can't shit himself.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Why do you say that? I don't know much about Clements, so I'm wondering how is he a dud? Or why you think it... I'm guessing MM disagrees or he wouldn't be promoting him.

UserPostedImage
nerdmann
10 years ago


Why do you say that? I don't know much about Clements, so I'm wondering how is he a dud? Or why you think it... I'm guessing Mike McCarthy disagrees or he wouldn't be promoting him.

Originally Posted by: beast 



He's old and he doesn't have any new or innovative ideas. He's never called plays here, not sure about elsewhere. But it's not like teams have been knocking down our door to make him an offer.

Teams have inquired about Van Pelt, but not Clements. lol

He might have "it," as far as calling plays. But I'm sceptical. In essence we've now got THREE OCs. The whole thing seems weird. Three OCs, plus Van Pelt, the future OC.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
Alternate look at this: Clements is essentially just a figure head play caller while Bennett and A-Rod do all the scheming during the week with A-Rod calling the majority of plays with Clements making suggestions (a la Peyton Manning)
Under Construction!
musccy
10 years ago
As far as the title of coaches, I think it's easier for another franchise to "steal" a staff member if it's a lateral move, so promotions make this more difficult...I believe. I think the team just did this with Eliot Wolf

As far as this, I'm in the minority but I like Mike as a playcaller, and I've rarely had issues with him in his role, even in the Seattle game. That said, I've always thought it has to be challenging for a HC to be calling defensive or offensive plays in the game while managing everything else. It seems like you'd be compromising some role.
+1
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    beast (5h) : Wow, 95% drop in investment revenue? Would be interesting to hear the details of why...
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : It's my one day deal complaint dept. on shareholder meeting day
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Probably a homer access credential intimidation kinda thing
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Meathead "journalists" skip this, concentrating on operational revenue when convenient. They switch when net revenue is more favorable.
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Resulting in an actual drop of net revenue of 12.5%. She is from Minnesota. Just sayin'
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Any plans to hold Maureen Smith (CFO) accountable for a 95% drop in investment revenue?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : In your face, HBO!
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @ByRyanWood Mark Murphy: “A great source of pride of mine is that we were never on Hard Knocks.”
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : *years
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @mattschneidman Mark Murphy says he anticipates “many Packers games” being played in Germany, Ireland and/or the U.K. over the next 5-10 yea
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : *cafeteria* I have hit my head also, so I sympathize
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Possibly hit his head leaning into the glass protecting the food in the cafateria
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Maybe a low flying drone
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Did Savion Williams run into a goalpost or something?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : also, no bueno when a guy starts getting concussions right off the bat in his career
    Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Concussion is worse. Banks probably vet off day via back booboo claim
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @AndyHermanNFL Jordy Nelson out at camp today. No word if he’s in play for one of the two open roster spots ; )
    dfosterf (25-Jul) : Is that better or worse than Banks bad back?
    Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Savion concussion ... not good.
    packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Aaron Rodgers’s first pass of first team period was picked off
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : tbh I didn't hear of his passing
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Cosby Show. Malcom Jamal Warner I think is real name
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : I was thinking of Ozzy and Hulk
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Who's Theo?
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : How is Theo alliteration?
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Bad week for people whose names are alliterations
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hulk Hogan gone too.
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Oh, it's toe injury
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hope it's not serious. that would stink
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : Sounds like an ankle not a knee for Fields
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : Ya Flaccp on Browns
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Maybe Tyrod Taylor instead
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : He's on Browns, right?
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : They would probably go with Flacco is my guess if Fields out
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : Fleece 'em again!
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Malik Willis might be someone Jets come after
    packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Packers introduce 1923-inspired classic uniform, leather-look helmet
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Both LB Quay Walker and Rookie DB Micah Robinson have passed their physicals
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Happy to see site feels more snappy snappy
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : No sir. I did not.
    dfosterf (23-Jul) : You didn't get free childcare when you were at work?
    wpr (23-Jul) : These guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Pay for their own childcare.
    dfosterf (23-Jul) : 2nd issue. Number 1 issue was no gameday childcare. 1 of 3 teams not providing it
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Suppose if locker room is main issue, we sitting pretty
    wpr (23-Jul) : I thought so Mucky. In those useless player polls GB always rates high overall. Locker is a part of it.
    Mucky Tundra (23-Jul) : Wasn't the locker room just updated like 6 or 7 years ago?
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : I have forum updated on different site. We'll see how this one goes before going to that
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Elgton Jenkins has a back injury, is expect to end contract dispute
    wpr (23-Jul) : It's funny the PA complained about the locker room. It wasn't that long ago it was top shelf. Things change in a hurry.
    wpr (23-Jul) : The site is much more better.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    25-Jul / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

    25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

    25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    25-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

    24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    24-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

    24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    22-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.