MintBaconDrivel
9 years ago
Twisting the knife.

Now for the bigger and bolder decision, the play that ignited Seattle’s comeback, punter Jon Ryan’s 19-yard touchdown pass to Garry Gilliam on a fake field goal. Ryan had been lobbying for the call during the week of practice, after special teams coach Brian Schneider’s staff identified the weak link in the Packers field goal block team.

Reserve linebacker Brad Jones was recklessly aggressive coming off the edge on film. He consistently darted hard to the inside in an effort to get the block, and often went to unnecessary lengths to do so. Against Dallas in their divisional game, he lined up on the left side three times and on the right once, and on one attempt he tried to leap over a blocker only to get stonewalled.

1. Take the snap and roll out to Jones’ side with either Garry Gilliam (left side) or Luke Willson (right) as a receiving option. If the linebacker covers the receiver, Ryan should run. If not, throw it.

2. If Jones isn’t on the field, take a delay of game penalty and then kick the field goal.

“Kickers are head-jobs anyway,” Ryan said within earshot of Hauschka, “so you don’t want to screw them around.”

Jones showed up on the left side, which meant undrafted rookie tackle Garry Gilliam would get the throw if necessary. Gilliam, a converted tight end out of Penn State, hadn’t caught a touchdown since high school.

“I broke the huddle like, Please be on my side, please be on my side,” Gilliam says. “And then [Jones] was.”

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steveishere
9 years ago
A lot of people will probably blame Jones for this but that's 100% on Slocum. If what Jones was doing is something he shouldn't have been then it needed to be corrected. If they corrected it and he had kept doing it then they needed to replace him. The fact that neither of these things happened tells me they were ok with how Jones played those FGs.
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Jones job is to try and get penetration and block the FG. This was first a coaching mistake blame slocum and an execution mistake on Hawk. They have to know what the situation is. 4th and 10 on the 19. Hawk and Richardson were not rushing so their job was to protect against the fake. Hawk was put in a tough position and he messed up. He committed to the run way to early. He should have stayed around the 2-3 yard line, making it a hard throw over his head, than if Ryan runs, hawk should be able to get him before Ryan makes 10 yards.
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Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
Troubling sign that Green Bay Packers never saw fake field goal coming 

"We have an alert if we think that they're going to fake it," Richardson said after the game. "We have calls for that."

To Richardson's knowledge, there was no alert call made.

"We were expecting a kick," said Richardson, who led the Packers in special-teams snaps played (321) during the regular season.



"It didn't enter my mind," Richardson said. "I was pretty sure they were going to kick it. Great call. Great play by them."

However, linebacker A.J. Hawk said he knew a fake was a possibility.

"It's an option, for sure, especially that deep in their zone," he said. "They definitely executed it."


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nerdmann
9 years ago
To all of you who say "players not plays." This is an example of a player NOT being corrected.

Slocum was so bad they had to hire another ST coach to come in and do his job for him. Still, other teams see BJones on the film study, and our team doesnt.

This is what happens when unsound play is not corrected. Coaches are SUPPOSED to do more than just sit up in the press box calling plays.

Should they have been aware that a fake was coming? We all were in the chat. LOL. So that's a F up on Slocum's part too. But it never would have happened if we had players being coached up.

Dude's squads are a joke.
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Rockmolder
9 years ago

To all of you who say "players not plays." This is an example of a player NOT being corrected.

Slocum was so bad they had to hire another ST coach to come in and do his job for him. Still, other teams see BJones on the film study, and our team doesnt.

This is what happens when unsound play is not corrected. Coaches are SUPPOSED to do more than just sit up in the press box calling plays.

Should they have been aware that a fake was coming? We all were in the chat. LOL. So that's a F up on Slocum's part too. But it never would have happened if we had players being coached up.

Dude's squads are a joke.

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In his defence, we see a fake coming every FG and punt.
Dulak
9 years ago
I do agree that our STs have never been that good; although I do like a few players on our ST now; masthey has turned out really well and crosby well really liked his kicking the past 2 seasons - glad he is on our team.

not sure why we have kept slocum for this long ...
or Oline has worked much better this year thou - weird because I think we have the same coach as before and we used to hate rodgers getting sacked 30+ times a season.

maybe those guys and rodgers are just getting better.

Dulak
9 years ago
oh was going to say ... I see they dont use djaun harris anymore for returns ... never liked the dude as a RB and not as a returner either -
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
What does this say about the Packers ability to self scout -- as they claim to do on a regular basis -- when a team like Seahawks picks up on something and can use it against them?


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nerdmann
9 years ago

What does this say about the Packers ability to self scout -- as they claim to do on a regular basis -- when a team like Seahawks picks up on something and can use it against them?

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It means people can stop blaming it all on the players.
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