texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
There's all sorts of blame going around - justified mostly for several players, the head coach, maybe other coaches, etc. I alluded to this in the other thread, but nobody picked up on it. I don't know, am I the only one who thinks that TED THOMPSON has been sadly delinquent in building a team around Aaron Rodgers?

Our O Line ain't what it should be - the reason there aren't more sacks is quick passing and Rodgers mobility, even on a bad leg. Literally every time he drops back, there are pass rushers in his face, and usually that's without blitzing. We can't push it in from inside the 1 yard line repeatedly? The run game has picked up some - mainly because teams are expecting us to pass, but we can't just line up and go toe to toe with really even weaker defenses.

Our defense survives because of Capers cunning and scheming, but there too, we are not on an equal footing personnel-wise. And later in games, when the schemes get figured out, things go bad in a hurry - witness Wilson's passing at the end compared to the beginning, not to mention inability to stop the run as we did early.

Even our strengths, wide receiver and running back, how much of their quality is because of Aaron Rodgers getting away from the rush and throwing to them or RBs running free because of the threat of our passing game?

I don't have any positive solution for this situation. Ted has a reputation as a good GM just as McCarthy has a reputation as a good coach - deserved in the sense that we have had consistently winning records. Neither of them is going away as long as Aaron Rodgers is in his prime. the problem is, they just are NOT MAXIMIZING THINGS. This sad and disgusting championship game really illustrated that. And I don't see things changing for the better.
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Cheesey
10 years ago
Ted didn't cause the collapse yesterday. It was the defense and special team blunders.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Why stop there? Why not blame Bob Harlan? After all, he's the one who brought Ted Thompson to Green Bay, right? Wait, let's go back further! Let's blame Bob Harlan's parents for not raising a better football minded individual!

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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
I am seeing on this team, what I predicted that last couple of years. The time to really open up the check book and go for the SB was a couple of years ago before paying Rodgers and Matthews big contracts. We had the money where a couple moves similar to the peppers move this year, could have made the difference without putting the team in any long term cap hell.

As for this season itself, Not keeping James Jones cost us. For the amount this team relies on the passing game, you better be damn sure you have the weapons to throw to. We actually got really lucky that neither Nelson or Cobb had to miss any major time because we did not have the depth at WR. He would have been well worth that money he ended up getting elsewhere.

Figure for every 3-4 million combined that Matthews and Rodgers are making, that is easily enough to upgrade at least one other position on the team with better talent.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

I am seeing on this team, what I predicted that last couple of years. The time to really open up the check book and go for the SB was a couple of years ago before paying Rodgers and Matthews big contracts. We had the money where a couple moves similar to the peppers move this year, could have made the difference without putting the team in any long term cap hell.

As for this season itself, Not keeping James Jones cost us. For the amount this team relies on the passing game, you better be damn sure you have the weapons to throw to. We actually got really lucky that neither Nelson or Cobb had to miss any major time because we did not have the depth at WR. He would have been well worth that money he ended up getting elsewhere.

Figure for every 3-4 million combined that Matthews and Rodgers are making, that is easily enough to upgrade at least one other position on the team with better talent.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Shortage of talent didn't piss this season away.

Ted is responsible ultimately for hiring Mike, and he may have to take a hard look at that decision at this point. But I'm not getting down on Ted.
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all_about_da_packers
10 years ago

Why stop there? Why not blame Bob Harlan? After all, he's the one who brought Ted Thompson to Green Bay, right? Wait, let's go back further! Let's blame Bob Harlan's parents for not raising a better football minded individual!

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Cut the jokes, we all know this falls directly on Mark Murphy. Giving Ted an extension, and then not exercising a veto on an extension for McCarthy... clearly he set the franchise back a decade.

Also, don't let Mike Sherman off for his part in yesterday's loss... his inability to coach in Ted's first year pretty much caused Ted to hire McCarthy.
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beast
10 years ago

Cut the jokes, we all know this falls directly on Mark Murphy. Giving Ted an extension, and then not exercising a veto on an extension for McCarthy... clearly he set the franchise back a decade.

Also, don't let Mike Sherman off for his part in yesterday's loss... his inability to coach in Ted's first year pretty much caused Ted to hire McCarthy.

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Why should he cut his jokes if you're clearly not cutting yours? Drafting and developing the best team is "clearly" setting "the franchise back a decade" is the biggest joke I've seen sine the loss.
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