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RaiderPride
Senior Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

Like that famous line in the movie "Airplane"

"Looks like I picked the bad week to quit smoking."

Did the Packers pick the bad off season to overhaul the coaching staff.

Now the Titans are looking for a new D.C. after Schwartz was just hired to be the H.C. of the Lions.

Jesus, that is one more opportunity out there in the NFL's micro economic love story of supply and demand.

I can not remember an off season with so many coaching opportunities and this does not bode well for the Packers at this critical time.

How much do you think this has effected the quality of coaches the Pack could have brought in?

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evad04
Member

15 years ago

I think the Packers will be fine because Green Bay would appear to be an attractive landing spot (and not for the weather). I'm a bit surprised with the Nolan to Denver and Williams to New Orleans. Not because the teams aren't good -- on the contrary, both could easily be in the playoffs. But the same can be said for Green Bay -- and we're only a season removed from 14-4. I think a chance to put a new scheme to test with a solid, [mostly] young talent pool and a potential defensive playmaker at the 9th pick makes for a great job.

While I'm surprised so far at how things are going, I'm still confident we'll get someone good. At this point I'm gunnin' for 1) An ex-head coach like a Dom Capers who, unlike Williams, is probably seen best as a coordinator or 2) a younger coach who knows his stuff and has pedigreed background.

Maybe in the case of Capers I'm not giving him enough credit. He WAS a successful head coach. But the point I'm trying to make is that coaches like him seem less likely to return to the head coaching ranks than Williams/Nolan. It doesn't have anything to do with professional acumen, though. It's just some people are better coordinators than head coach. If we brought in a Gregg Williams maybe we'd have to deal with him leaving in a few years.

Ah hell ... let's just clone Jim Johnson or Dick LeBeau.

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IronMan
Veteran Member

15 years ago

Like that famous line in the movie "Airplane"

"Looks like I picked the bad week to quit smoking."

"RaiderPride" wrote:

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RaiderPride
Senior Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

"evad04" wrote:

This is exactly why I refresh this web site 50 times a day.

I love your attitude, and respect your football knowledge, like I do so many posters here.

+1

R.P.

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

bozz_2006
Registered

15 years ago

just a thought I had about McDermott... Many of you know I am a bit nervous and unsure whether or not he can even get out of his contract with Philly. he has another year on his contract and they could block his leaving. a coach can be blocked if he is trying to make a "lateral move". you all know this. and it's been said that a DC position could be seen as a lateral move... my question is, does the contract have anything to do with whether the league views it as a lateral move? i mean, if he's making $110,000/yr in Philly but we want to hire him for $750,000/yr, how can that be a lateral move? on the other hand, if philly blocks an interview, it would never get to the stage where they talk contracts anyway. so, anyone know?

bozz_2006
Registered

15 years ago

sorry to hijack the thread. seemed like a good place to put this question. and, i dunno, i don't like starting new threads.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

15 years ago

I think we have entirely too many threads about this topic already; I will be examining them for possible merger.

Packnic
Registered

15 years ago

"bozz_2006" wrote:

the only thing i can say is... you gotta believe that Mike and Ted are smart enough to realize the same thing and that if they were really after McDermott, they would know whether or not he will be available.

I think I read somewhere that Ted and Andy Reid get along well and that if McDermott was up for a job... Andy wouldn't block it. Also Steve Spaguonlo had a year on his contract before he left and had no problem.

Not to mention the great equaliser in this whole thing. If we think McDermott is the man... all we have to do is give him assistant head coach status and that would prevent Philly from blocking his move, as it would not be vertical. And with Winston Moss seemingly gone, that title will be vacant.

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RaiderPride
Senior Member Topic Starter

15 years ago

I think we have entirely too many threads about this topic already; I will be examining them for possible merger.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

It is the off season.

IMHO if we start merging everything this forum will end up with two threads that are way to hard to read.

I just attempted to start a conversation about the timing of the situation, the challenges it has due to that timing.

So Sorry Nonstop if this should have been added to another thread.

R.P.

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#10

RP, it's always a judgment call. Some threads truly are redundant; others cover different angles on similar topics. I'm just finding it really hard to follow the arguments on coaching changes right now, because they feel scattered all over the place.

Longer threads make the search function much more useful too. I know some sites where threads go 300, even 400 pages in length; but if you type in a search string, you know exactly in which thread to look for the information you're seeking.

/end thread hijack 😃

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