nerdmann
10 years ago
PFT 

All-Pro teams have been put together for decades, and they haven’t changed to reflect the changes in the NFL. So when All-Pro voters fill out their ballots, they’re asked to name two wide receivers, two running backs, one tight end and one fullback. That’s ridiculous. In the 1940s, you would have seen two running backs and a fullback on the field together. Now, three wide receivers is the norm, and a fullback is a rarity. And yet All-Pro teams still select players like we’re in the 1940s.

That’s why Green Bay’s John Kuhn is a first-team All-Pro, even though he played in only 18 percent of the Packers’ offensive snaps this year. But Green Bay’s Jordy Nelson who had the third-most votes at wide receiver, is relegated to second-team All-Pro even though he played in 91 percent of the Packers’ offensive snaps this year. No one seriously believes that Kuhn is a better player for the Packers than Nelson is, but Kuhn gets first-team All-Pro status and Nelson doesn’t because the AP clings to the outdated system of having a fullback and two wide receivers on the All-Pro team.


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millertime
10 years ago
Kuhn won because he is the most well-known fullback, not the best.
Marcel Reece maybe the most athletic and there are plenty who are better blockers.
Agreed with 3 WRs and no FBs on the team.
macbob
10 years ago
I'd agree it's time for an update. They had 3 RBs (Murray, Bell, Kuhn) make 1st team and only 2 WRs.

I'd lump the FBs in with the other RBs and have them compete in that category.

NFL.com breaks down the voting:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000452986/article/2014-allpro-teams 

AR was a run-away at QB, with 44 votes. Romo had 3, Brady 2, and Luck 1.

CM3 got votes at both OLB (5) and ILB (1). If they had been at ILB he would have made 2nd team All Pro (two players with 4 votes made 2nd Team All Pro ILB).

No second team TEs because Gronk got all of the votes.

Marshawn Lynch got 1 vote at FB.

Other Packers getting votes (who didn't make 1st/2nd team):
Bulaga - 1 at Tackle
Linsley - 1 at Center
CM3 - 5 at OLB
CM3 - 1 at ILB

earthquake
10 years ago
Sitton was second team for the second straight year as well I believe.
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macbob
10 years ago

Sitton was second team for the second straight year as well I believe.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Yep
Rockmolder
10 years ago

Kuhn won because he is the most well-known fullback, not the best.
Marcel Reece maybe the most athletic and there are plenty who are better blockers.
Agreed with 3 WRs and no FBs on the team.

Originally Posted by: millertime 



I don't know. Reece can't block. He won AP last year, but if you look at his numbers this year, they're far from impressive. Even for a FB.

Same goes for Tolbert, who's being used more as a HB, but had a pretty disappointing season.

Guys like Hynoski and Felton have been very good this season, but they're 'just' blockers.

The great thing about Kuhn is that he can do it all. He's not the most punishing blocker in the run game, but he does clear lanes for Lacy. He's not as athletic as Reece, but he is a great check down and more. I haven't seen him screw up a pass block once this season (but I may be wrong on that one). Lastly, he can pick up the tough yards when needed. That they still have him run it with Lacy on the roster is a huge vote of confidence.

The whole Kuuuuuuhhhhhhnnnn stuff helps, but FB is always a position that's rather hard to justify sending one guy instead of the other. Kuhn is a jack of all trades and I reckon that's what got him in. Last year, they got the FB/HB hybrids in. The year before that the pure blockers. There's something to be said for all of them.
nerdmann
10 years ago

I don't know. Reece can't block. He won AP last year, but if you look at his numbers this year, they're far from impressive. Even for a FB.

Same goes for Tolbert, who's being used more as a HB, but had a pretty disappointing season.

Guys like Hynoski and Felton have been very good this season, but they're 'just' blockers.

The great thing about Kuhn is that he can do it all. He's not the most punishing blocker in the run game, but he does clear lanes for Lacy. He's not as athletic as Reece, but he is a great check down and more. I haven't seen him screw up a pass block once this season (but I may be wrong on that one). Lastly, he can pick up the tough yards when needed. That they still have him run it with Lacy on the roster is a huge vote of confidence.

The whole Kuuuuuuhhhhhhnnnn stuff helps, but FB is always a position that's rather hard to justify sending one guy instead of the other. Kuhn is a jack of all trades and I reckon that's what got him in. Last year, they got the FB/HB hybrids in. The year before that the pure blockers. There's something to be said for all of them.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Lacy probly helps him look pretty good too.
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yooperfan
10 years ago

Lacy probly helps him look pretty good too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I think Kuhn helps Lacy look good with his blocking more than Lacy helps Kuhn Look good.
If Lacy makes anyone look better, it would be the O-line.

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