steveishere
10 years ago

Whenever a rule doesn't go in favor of your under-performing team, it is always a "stupid"/ "dumbass" rule, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm pretty sure I explained exactly why I thought the rule was bad. If you care to dispute that go ahead or just make little useless drive by comments like this that don't address what was said. Whatever you feel is most productive to an actual discussion on your forum I guess.
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
The way I state it is. I can live with getting beat, I hate losing. The difference being, getting beat is when you play well, not making mistakes and the other team just plays better. Losing is what the Packers did today with the poor throws and drops by the offense.


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Yeah, but the reason the rule was put in place was to prevent desperation fake fumbling to advance the ball at the end of the half/game. It was a direct result of the Oakland Raiders "Immaculate Deception" play back in the 70s--Ken Stabler 'fumbled' the ball to avoid being sacked. No Raider player was able to pick up the ball and run with it (as they had Chargers players hanging all over them trying to recover the ball), so they batted the ball forward until it was in the end zone, and then fell on it.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



The rule could be fixed by simply not allowing the offense to advance the ball past the place of fumble, which would have allowed Lacy to pick up the ball and prevent the Safety, but not gain additional yardage. The rule as written, lacy could have batted the ball forward and either himself or another player recovered it to accomplish the same thing as him just picking it up and getting out of the endzone.

Understand the reason for the rule, but it isn't written the best.
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Rockmolder
10 years ago

The rule could be fixed by simply not allowing the offense to advance the ball past the place of fumble, which would have allowed Lacy to pick up the ball and prevent the Safety, but not gain additional yardage. The rule as written, lacy could have batted the ball forward and either himself or another player recovered it to accomplish the same thing as him just picking it up and getting out of the endzone.

Understand the reason for the rule, but it isn't written the best.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Yeah. The Holy Roller was a totally different thing. I can imagine that you can't advance it past the line by batting it, but where's the harm in picking up a fumble behind the line and then running it? It's little more than a hand-off on that case.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Yeah. The Holy Roller was a totally different thing. I can imagine that you can't advance it past the line by batting it, but where's the harm in picking up a fumble behind the line and then running it? It's little more than a hand-off on that case.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



You can do that, just not under 2:00 right? I can't think of a any rule that says you can do this but not after this time left in the game that I liked. Sure it is cut and dry, but just seems silly. Either allow it always or not at all.

I suppose the reason for the time limit is because if you're on a last ditch effort with less than couple minutes to go, what do you have to lose? Then again, if you're willing to throw a Hail Mary, how is a Hail Fumble much different?
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
First of all, I DO mind losing. I also don't care for all the negative shit that gets posted immediately after in multiple threads. As for the shitting thing, pretty much all teams do that sometimes.

As for the playoff situation, we had to beat Detroit anyway - a win yesterday and a loss Week 17, and they still have the tiebreaker of division record on us. The Seattle win is mixed - they did knock out the Niners completely, and a loss to the Cardinals would give them 5 losses. I don't expect that, but what I do halfway at least expect is they lose Week 17 to St. Louis - a very Buffalo-like team. Does anybody know, if we and the Cardinals and Cowboys win our divisions with 4 losses, who has the tiebreaker between us and them? And if the Seahawks, Eagles, and Lions all have 5 losses by the end, who is 1 and 2 for the wild card, and who is out? That, BTW, can be taken as a prediction of how it all turns out.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, that rule: Picture this - we sack somebody's QB in the end zone, and he kinda accidentally on purpose bowls the ball back across the goal line and his team mate recovers. We might think different about the rule then hahahaha.
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, that rule: Picture this - we sack somebody's QB in the end zone, and he kinda accidentally on purpose bowls the ball back across the goal line and his team mate recovers. We might think different about the rule then hahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



That is why, if the rule was written, where the ball cannot be advanced past where it was fumbled. If the QB is in the endzone and fumbles, than another payer cannot advance it past that point so it would still be a safety. But in the case yesterday, Rodgers was outside the endzone so a safety could be prevented.

I think the whole idea of the rule is so the offensive team cannot gain an advantage by fumbling the ball forwards. I don't think the idea was to make the play more negative than any other fumble would be.
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sschind
10 years ago

Well hell that wasn't what anyone wanted today.

Packers lose.
Detroit wins
Seattle wins

Can't dwell on it to long, Packers have to get ready to go to Tampa Bay.

Win the last 2...12-4 worst that The Packers could be is 2nd seed, still plenty of football to go.

Not the path I wanted to see, but it is what it is.

Gotta give credit to Bills coaches, they put together a great plan.

The players executed that plan to the tee!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Hopefully the Bucs really really want Marcus Mariota.

sschind
10 years ago

The rule could be fixed by simply not allowing the offense to advance the ball past the place of fumble, which would have allowed Lacy to pick up the ball and prevent the Safety, but not gain additional yardage. The rule as written, lacy could have batted the ball forward and either himself or another player recovered it to accomplish the same thing as him just picking it up and getting out of the endzone.

Understand the reason for the rule, but it isn't written the best.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 




That's actually a good idea. Send an email to the rules committee.
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