buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
Well hell that wasn't what anyone wanted today.

Packers lose.
Detroit wins
Seattle wins

Can't dwell on it to long, Packers have to get ready to go to Tampa Bay.

Win the last 2...12-4 worst that The Packers could be is 2nd seed, still plenty of football to go.

Not the path I wanted to see, but it is what it is.

Gotta give credit to Bills coaches, they put together a great plan.

The players executed that plan to the tee!!!
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steveishere
10 years ago

Yeah, but the reason the rule was put in place was to prevent desperation fake fumbling to advance the ball at the end of the half/game. It was a direct result of the Oakland Raiders "Immaculate Deception" play back in the 70s--Ken Stabler 'fumbled' the ball to avoid being sacked. No Raider player was able to pick up the ball and run with it (as they had Chargers players hanging all over them trying to recover the ball), so they batted the ball forward until it was in the end zone, and then fell on it.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



yeah it's supposed to stop someone from fumbling on purpose but there should be a way to account for the scenario like what happened today. Like letting them at least be able to advance it to the spot where the fumble happened
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

yeah it's supposed to stop someone from fumbling on purpose but there should be a way to account for the scenario like what happened today. Like letting them at least be able to advance it to the spot where the fumble happened

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



And then you get gray area judgment calls by the referee's an that is precisely what the NFL needs to avoid.

The Packers should not have found themselves in that position in the first place. The rule is fine, the Packers play is not.
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rabidgopher04
10 years ago

The Packers should not have found themselves in that position in the first place. The rule is fine, the Packers play is not.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes, but the rule still sucks.


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10 years ago

I didn't learn anything today. I've known we have trouble and will always have trouble with strong defensive teams that get in your face with intimidation. Unfortunately there will be three of these teams in the NFC playoffs: Seattle, Detroit, and Arizona. We can't avoid all of them.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Unfortunately they most likely will meet one of them on the road.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Well hell that wasn't what anyone wanted today.

Packers lose.
Detroit wins
Seattle wins

Can't dwell on it to long, Packers have to get ready to go to Tampa Bay.

Win the last 2...12-4 worst that The Packers could be is 2nd seed, still plenty of football to go.

Not the path I wanted to see, but it is what it is.

Gotta give credit to Bills coaches, they put together a great plan.

The players executed that plan to the tee!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Yep, they executed. Plus we repeatedly shit ourselves.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

yeah it's supposed to stop someone from fumbling on purpose but there should be a way to account for the scenario like what happened today. Like letting them at least be able to advance it to the spot where the fumble happened

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Who cares if someone fumbles on purpose? Big F'n deal.
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steveishere
10 years ago

And then you get gray area judgment calls by the referee's an that is precisely what the NFL needs to avoid.

The Packers should not have found themselves in that position in the first place. The rule is fine, the Packers play is not.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't even care about today Lacy possibly didn't even get the ball out so it wouldn't have mattered anyway. How is it a gray area if there is a fumble to not blow the play dead until the offensive player advances it past the point where the fumble happened? Seems pretty simple to me. If it's too difficult to determine where the fumble happened then make it the original LOS.

The spirit of the rule is to keep an offensive player from fumbling on purpose to advance the ball in an end of game situation. What happened today is not in that spirit. It's simply a dumb rule.
nerdmann
10 years ago

I don't even care about today Lacy possibly didn't even get the ball out so it wouldn't have mattered anyway. How is it a gray area if there is a fumble to not blow the play dead until the offensive player advances it past the point where the fumble happened? Seems pretty simple to me. If it's too difficult to determine where the fumble happened then make it the original LOS.

The spirit of the rule is to keep an offensive player from fumbling on purpose to advance the ball in an end of game situation. What happened today is not in that spirit. It's simply a dumb rule.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



What's wrong with doing a fumblerooski? Fuck that dumb ass rule.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Whenever a rule doesn't go in favor of your under-performing team, it is always a "stupid"/ "dumbass" rule, lol.
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