Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
16 years ago
Kind of disspells the notion that Hawk was hurt this season.. his own words.. won't expand on my viewpoint here.. call it a new years resolution. ;)

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090113/PKR01/90112107/1058 

[Comment From Chuck]
Pete...Any reason to believe AJ Hawk was still hurting with that groin towards the end of the season? He looked slow, too slow to cover a running back.
1:09

Pete Dougherty:
I asked him several times in the last three weeks of the season, and he insists it wasn't a problem the second half of the year. He did look slower, no doubt. I know some people with the Packers think it was a problem and he just wouldn't say, not even to the team. Something was up, because it makes no sense that his play would slip like that in his third season.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
bozz_2006
16 years ago
I didn't read the chat, but i guess i don't see this as definitive of anything. i know several people who won't admit they're hurting, ever. I hope hawk was hurt. because his play was garbage. it's still wishful thinking, but what i'm saying is that i don't feel like this quote settles the discussion.
UserPostedImage
IronMan
16 years ago

I didn't read the chat, but i guess i don't see this as definitive of anything. i know several people who won't admit they're hurting, ever. I hope hawk was hurt. because his play was garbage. it's still wishful thinking, but what i'm saying is that i don't feel like this quote settles the discussion.

"bozz_2006" wrote:


Agreed.
porky88
16 years ago
He did say something was up though so I don't think this really proves anything.

Regardless of injured or not, A.J. Hawk has been a disappointment and there isn't any denying it. Now it comes down to getting it fix. He's way to talented to be a bust, but another poor year and that's where the Packers are at.
Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
16 years ago
AJ insisting that the groin wasn't bothering him is enough for me.. a players own words speak volumes in terms of their health, IMO.

Hawk regressed this season.. actually has been regressing since about mid way last season.. we need to get it turned around quickly.. he is a major portion of what can aid the regeneration of the Packers defense..

Hopefully the Packers coach this talented group up this coming season.. adding a little attitude might help this group.. say a hyper rookie linebacker to to fix with a Wayne Simmons mean streak.. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
I think that the groin injury itself was healed, but there was a lasting effect of the injury. Having that groin problem changed his workout routine for a fairly long period of time. And my guess is that because he was not able to work out the same for that time, that his speed was effected and would take longer to regain than the injury would to heal.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
IronMan
16 years ago

I think that the groin injury itself was healed, but there was a lasting effect of the injury. Having that groin problem changed his workout routine for a fairly long period of time. And my guess is that because he was not able to work out the same for that time, that his speed was effected and would take longer to regain than the injury would to heal.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:


Good point. +1
16 years ago
Hawk was always a workout fiend. I wonder if Rock's program changed his routine and detracted from his production on the field. I hate to blame Rock because I liked the guy, but we've heard some complaints already and considering how our LB play dropped...
UserPostedImage
bozz_2006
16 years ago
to add to what packfanwithtwins has said, there's always more to an injury than just the injury. there's the physical part of it, which heals, and then there's the mental aspect, which sometimes lingers for a looooooong time. AJ was really really really slow this year. slower than in the past. could be that the physical part of the injury healed but he's hesitant to put the pedal to the metal. Not like he's afraid, but almost like his psyche won't let him go all the way (like a "govern" on a car that won't allow it go above a certain MPH). being a person who has suffered more sports injuries than i'd like to admit, i know there is a certain mental aspect to sports injuries.
UserPostedImage
DarkaneRules
16 years ago
It really could come down to not being in shape. I don't know whose job is it but I would say the LB core on the whole this year seemed out of shape.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (6h) : too funny
packerfanoutwest (6h) : Lions QB Jared Goff was the offensive MVP
packerfanoutwest (6h) : for the Pro Bowl, which is flag football
Zero2Cool (7h) : Rather, the murder WAS covered up to prevent ...
Zero2Cool (7h) : JFK murder was a cover-up to prevent war with Cuba/Russia.
Martha Careful (1-Feb) : I have always admired the pluck of the man
Zero2Cool (1-Feb) : I remember thinking he was going to be something good.
Mucky Tundra (1-Feb) : The Dualing Banjo!
Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jets have named Chris Banjo as their special teams coordinator, Former Packers player
Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jaguars have hired Anthony Campanile as their DC. We lose coach
Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : QB coach Sean Mannion
Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : DL Coach DeMarcus Covington
dfosterf (30-Jan) : from ft Belvoir, Quantico and points south. Somber reminder of this tragedy at Reagan Nat Airport
dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eerily quiet here in Alexandria. I live in the flight path of commercial craft coming from the south and west, plus the military craft
dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eeri
Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Now that's a thought, maybe they're looking at the college ranks? Maybe not head coaches but DC/assistant DCs with league experience?
beast (30-Jan) : College Coaches wouldn't want that publicly, as it would hurt recruiting and they might not get the job.
beast (30-Jan) : I thought they were supposed to publicly announce them, at least the NFL ones. Hafley was from college, so I believe different rules.
Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Who knows who they're interviewing? I mean, nobody knew about Hafley and then out of nowhere he was hired
beast (30-Jan) : I wonder what's taking so long with hiring a DL coach, 2 of the 3 known to interview have already been hired elsewhere.
Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Packers coach Matt LaFleur hires Luke Getsy as senior assistant, extends Rich Bisaccia's deal
Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Chiefs again huh? I guess another Super Bowl I'll be finding something else to do.
Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : Chiefs Eagles...again...sigh
dfosterf (27-Jan) : Happy Birthday Dave!
Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : happy birthday dhazer
TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Exactly buck...Washington came up with the ball. It is just a shitty coincidence one week later
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : I forgot, they corrected the call a week later. Lol btw HAPPY BIRTHDAY dhazer!
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : That brings up the question, why wasn't Nixon down by contact? I think that was the point Kanata was making.
buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : Turnovers rule, win the turnover battle, win the game.
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : well, he was
TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Eagles down by contact on the fumble....fuck you NFL
Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : I think this games over
beast (26-Jan) : Eagles sure get a lot of fumbles on kickoffs
Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : This game looks too big for Washington
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : that being said, The Ravens are the Browns
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : Browns, Dolphins have longest AFC Championship droughts
packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : As of today, Cowboys have longest NFC Championship drought,
beast (26-Jan) : Someone pointed out, with Raiders hiring Carroll, the division games between Carroll and Jim Harbaugh are back on (who can whine more games)
beast (26-Jan) : I'm confused, Pete Carroll and Brian Schottenheimer? When Todd Monken, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, Kliff Kingsbury and Zac Robinson are availab
Zero2Cool (25-Jan) : Any reason I'm catching a shot here about my intelligence?
Martha Careful (25-Jan) : thank you Mucky for sticking up for me
Martha Careful (25-Jan) : some of those people are smarter than you zero. However Pete Carroll is not
Mucky Tundra (24-Jan) : Rude!
beast (24-Jan) : Martha? 😋
Zero2Cool (24-Jan) : Raiders hired someone from the elderly home.
dfosterf (24-Jan) : I'm going with a combination of the two.
beast (24-Jan) : Either the Cowboys have no idea what they're doing, or they're targeting their former OC, currently the Eagles OC
Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
beast (23-Jan) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

1-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

1-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

27-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

25-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.