Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
16 years ago
Kind of disspells the notion that Hawk was hurt this season.. his own words.. won't expand on my viewpoint here.. call it a new years resolution. ;)

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090113/PKR01/90112107/1058 

[Comment From Chuck]
Pete...Any reason to believe AJ Hawk was still hurting with that groin towards the end of the season? He looked slow, too slow to cover a running back.
1:09

Pete Dougherty:
I asked him several times in the last three weeks of the season, and he insists it wasn't a problem the second half of the year. He did look slower, no doubt. I know some people with the Packers think it was a problem and he just wouldn't say, not even to the team. Something was up, because it makes no sense that his play would slip like that in his third season.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
bozz_2006
16 years ago
I didn't read the chat, but i guess i don't see this as definitive of anything. i know several people who won't admit they're hurting, ever. I hope hawk was hurt. because his play was garbage. it's still wishful thinking, but what i'm saying is that i don't feel like this quote settles the discussion.
UserPostedImage
IronMan
16 years ago

I didn't read the chat, but i guess i don't see this as definitive of anything. i know several people who won't admit they're hurting, ever. I hope hawk was hurt. because his play was garbage. it's still wishful thinking, but what i'm saying is that i don't feel like this quote settles the discussion.

"bozz_2006" wrote:


Agreed.
porky88
16 years ago
He did say something was up though so I don't think this really proves anything.

Regardless of injured or not, A.J. Hawk has been a disappointment and there isn't any denying it. Now it comes down to getting it fix. He's way to talented to be a bust, but another poor year and that's where the Packers are at.
Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
16 years ago
AJ insisting that the groin wasn't bothering him is enough for me.. a players own words speak volumes in terms of their health, IMO.

Hawk regressed this season.. actually has been regressing since about mid way last season.. we need to get it turned around quickly.. he is a major portion of what can aid the regeneration of the Packers defense..

Hopefully the Packers coach this talented group up this coming season.. adding a little attitude might help this group.. say a hyper rookie linebacker to to fix with a Wayne Simmons mean streak.. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
I think that the groin injury itself was healed, but there was a lasting effect of the injury. Having that groin problem changed his workout routine for a fairly long period of time. And my guess is that because he was not able to work out the same for that time, that his speed was effected and would take longer to regain than the injury would to heal.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
IronMan
16 years ago

I think that the groin injury itself was healed, but there was a lasting effect of the injury. Having that groin problem changed his workout routine for a fairly long period of time. And my guess is that because he was not able to work out the same for that time, that his speed was effected and would take longer to regain than the injury would to heal.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:


Good point. +1
16 years ago
Hawk was always a workout fiend. I wonder if Rock's program changed his routine and detracted from his production on the field. I hate to blame Rock because I liked the guy, but we've heard some complaints already and considering how our LB play dropped...
UserPostedImage
bozz_2006
16 years ago
to add to what packfanwithtwins has said, there's always more to an injury than just the injury. there's the physical part of it, which heals, and then there's the mental aspect, which sometimes lingers for a looooooong time. AJ was really really really slow this year. slower than in the past. could be that the physical part of the injury healed but he's hesitant to put the pedal to the metal. Not like he's afraid, but almost like his psyche won't let him go all the way (like a "govern" on a car that won't allow it go above a certain MPH). being a person who has suffered more sports injuries than i'd like to admit, i know there is a certain mental aspect to sports injuries.
UserPostedImage
DarkaneRules
16 years ago
It really could come down to not being in shape. I don't know whose job is it but I would say the LB core on the whole this year seemed out of shape.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Fan Shout
dfosterf (28m) : Mackelvie
dfosterf (29m) : Michael Macelvie- NFL teams know how to draft- Why don"t they?
dfosterf (31m) : Youtube
Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers were not selected for the 2025 Hall of Fame game.
dfosterf (7h) : PFOW Out of our division would be a good thing imo
Zero2Cool (9h) : Jameson Williams is done at 24 years old? What? He's a WR, not QB. I'm missing something here haha
wpr (9h) : Tomorrow is almost here.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : would you want him if Pack needed a back up qb?
packerfanoutwest (9h) : JW is done......stick a fork in him
Zero2Cool (11h) : You should. He goes to AFC that helps Packers.
packerfanoutwest (22h) : don't care
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?
packerfanoutwest (22-Apr) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat
wpr (22-Apr) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.
wpr (22-Apr) : now 3
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Who? What?
beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?
Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : It's so awesome.
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : new site fan shout post fast
wpr (21-Apr) : Slow posting in Fan shout.
wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!
dfosterf (21-Apr) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am
wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days
beast (18-Apr) : 6 days
wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
44m / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

22-Apr / Random Babble / Martha Careful

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

17-Apr / Random Babble / wpr

13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.