DakotaT
10 years ago

Ease off the name calling here football fans. A different opinion is a different opinion, it doesn't mean you need to stoop so low as to calling them names for said different opinion.


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well, we've all had our battles and nobody is a virgin or anything. Maybe you should start a PG subforum, and I swear on Gunny's testicles that I won't enter.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

Well I guess this shows your lack of understanding of the NFL. And Qbs. [duh]

Foles was the starting QB all through TC and took the majority of the snaps. Foles was the starting QB for another 9 weeks. Phillie was 5-2 with their only losses at SF and AZ. Just about every QB would be satisfied with that kind of success.

I don't care who the backup QB is, it is hard to be sharp with only 1 week as the starting QB.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



And in spite of that, Sanchez has been a statistically better passer than Foles this year with a better completion percentage, YPA and QB rating. The Eagles are 4-1 since Sanchez came in and are averaging over 34 points a game.

I don't think the dominant win over the Eagles should be so easily dismissed for Sanchez playing when the change in QB doesn't seem to have otherwise slowed Philly down. From my perspective, that's what Zero was getting at; and I'd tend to agree with him.
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10 years ago

And in spite of that, Sanchez has been a statistically better passer than Foles this year with a better completion percentage, YPA and QB rating. The Eagles are 4-1 since Sanchez came in and are averaging over 34 points a game.

I don't think the dominant win over the Eagles should be so easily dismissed for Sanchez playing when the change in QB doesn't seem to have otherwise slowed Philly down. From my perspective, that's what Zero was getting at; and I'd tend to agree with him.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Yes I understand that. My point was that the GB game was only the second week in which Sanchez practiced and played as the starting QB. Even though he had been a starter with the Jets it still takes a little bit of time to get up to speed. He may have done a better job than Foles and then again he may not have. We will never know. Nor does it really matter.
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hardrocker950
10 years ago

To be fair, which is rare... My ONE post appeared in the power rankings thread and was moved here. I had no intention of debating the merits of contender or pretender when I made my post. Z made his proclamation about nobody chirping up now that the Packers were so all of a sudden powerful. I decided to interject after a long period of restraint.

I don't want to be a full time poster here. I should've just tarried my presence.

Ultimately, I, as a fan, am in a similar spot as I was when I was really slamming this team. I want to see if this team can prove it's not a one game blunder. Now, I'm reading that much like the 15-1 season we're the best team in football. Hoping to avoid the same fate when we were the "best" a few seasons ago. Prove it... when it really, really matters. Today, was nice. I don't see a ring ceremony in our future because of the big win Sunday.

Let's just hope this gang wins when it matters not the 13th week of the regular season. The Patriots understand that and their fans, too. I'm not sure our fan base understands it quite like they do.

Encouraged for sure...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



So in fewer words you believe -
1 - you are the only Packers fan that knows you can't win the Lombardi midseason
2 - beating a good team means nothing just because it wasn't a postseason game
3 - winning apparently only matter postseason

You do realize that you have to win in the regular season to make it to the big game right?

(I suppose the NFC South is the exception to that - but we are not in that division.)
polargrizz
10 years ago
Some random thoughts on my virgin packer alliance experience.

I'll start by saying that I did not watch the television broadcast. I have always loved listening to the radio for NFL football. I also have a history with Wayne Larivee going back to the mid eighties on WGN's Bears broadcasts. He is by a mile, the very best NFL radio play by play guy out there.

I will be refraining from using "WE" when talking directly about the Packer's performance.

GB played "Big Boy" football yesterday.

They traded punch for punch with The Patriots, the best that the AFC has to offer.

I am now convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that The Green Bay Packers are the Best in Show of the NFL.

So gentlemen enjoy the ride, they are peaking at just the right moment. But above all I want to see them steamroll, and pulverize, the Detroit Lions.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

Ultimately, I, as a fan, am in a similar spot as I was when I was really slamming this team. I want to see if this team can prove it's not a one game blunder. Now, I'm reading that much like the 15-1 season we're the best team in football. Hoping to avoid the same fate when we were the "best" a few seasons ago. Prove it... when it really, really matters. Today, was nice. I don't see a ring ceremony in our future because of the big win Sunday.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I distinctly remember myself, and many other posters here, acknowledging that the Packers had many substantial weaknesses during the 15-1 season. The defense was bad, and it was painfully obvious to most knowledgeable NFL fans. The Packers record looked much better on paper than the team actually looked on the field, imo. They were not the best team in football, just like the Cardinals aren't the best team in the NFC right now, or all season.

From my perspective, the 2010 and 2014 teams were and are much better teams than the 15-1 team. As always, it's much more complicated than numbers on paper, even if those numbers are wins and losses. You are correct, weaknesses will be truly exposed in the playoffs, and the 2011 Packers were not ready for the moment. The 2014 Packers might not be either, depending on any number of circumstances, but they have a very realistic chance. In other words, they are serious contenders, which about as much as an NFL fan can reasonably expect in today's NFL. We can hope for more, but it's just not that easy.
Cheesey
10 years ago

Some random thoughts on my virgin packer alliance experience.

I'll start by saying that I did not watch the television broadcast. I have always loved listening to the radio for NFL football. I also have a history with Wayne Larivee going back to the mid eighties on WGN's Bears broadcasts. He is by a mile, the very best NFL radio play by play guy out there.

I will be refraining from using "WE" when talking directly about the Packer's performance.

GB played "Big Boy" football yesterday.

They traded punch for punch with The Patriots, the best that the AFC has to offer.

I am now convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that The Green Bay Packers are the Best in Show of the NFL.

So gentlemen enjoy the ride, they are peaking at just the right moment. But above all I want to see them steamroll, and pulverize, the Detroit Lions.

Originally Posted by: polargrizz 


I love you, Grizz!!![grin1]
Again, you have shown what a great fan you are. I only wish you would "convert" to being a Packer fan!
You have always been a class act. And I respect you!
I wish fans of all NFL teams would act like you do. You can trash talk and show up whether your team wins or loses, and never get nasty.
Enough of the "attaboys"........"Da Bears still suck!"[grin1] 😆

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10 years ago

I love you, Grizz!!![grin1]
Again, you have shown what a great fan you are. I only wish you would "convert" to being a Packer fan!
You have always been a class act. And I respect you!
I wish fans of all NFL teams would act like you do. You can trash talk and show up whether your team wins or loses, and never get nasty.
Enough of the "attaboys"........"Da Bears still suck!"[grin1] 😆

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Cheesey,
While you were napping big things have happened.

Gentlemen,

For the last 6 years I have been a small part of this forums discourse. I have attempted not to give the impression of being a "Meatball Bears Fan". I believe that I have accomplished this.

Having said that I have come to a decision which to some people, would be akin to abdicating my US citizenship.

Today, on my birthday, November 23, 2014 I willfully renounce my alliance to the NFL franchise of the City of Chicago, and publicly confess to faithfully take up a new alliance to the NFL franchise of the city of Green Bay, that resides in the state of my birth, Wisconsin.

I realistically have about a decade left of time on this orb and I had to make this right before I'm off to see my creator.

I ask for your blessings Packer Nation

Sir Grizz of Polar

Originally Posted by: polargrizz 


And this post 
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Smokey
10 years ago
Contenders ! [boxing]
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
Right now is this even a question anymore? The team is sitting in the best position to gain HFA throughout the playoffs in the NFC.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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