Laser Gunns
10 years ago
I cant get the Detroit game out of my head.

pretenders.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!
gbpfan
10 years ago
We are contenders the Lions game was awful , but we played like the three stogies. We stayed close on that game ,we gave them points the Seahawks again we stayed on that game until second half , that's when things got ugly ,saint's game from the start knew we would lose. The pack is back the o-line will keep A- Rod standing d-line will stop the run with C.M. in his new position , eagles will feel what the bears felt. The difference is Sánchez will throw more picks our way.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
When I say pretender, it's not lopsided like full pretender, joke team. Of course they could go all the way, but so could about two dozen other teams. That's how the NFL works. You can't let teams run all over you and continue to etch out wins against poor quarterbacked teams. What happens when a team gets the jump on the Packers and runs it down their throat? The Packers can't stop it and that makes the predictable play calling of Mike McCarthy even more predictable.

Maybe Clay Matthews III playing ILB is the run stopping fix?


Of the three loses, if those had been home games, the Packers would have likely won 2 of the 3.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



That's not going to help much in the playoffs because they most likely be on the road. Not that it matters because the Giants and 49ers don't seem to have any issues with playing in Lambeau Field.


dfosterf
10 years ago

I cant get the Detroit game out of my head.

pretenders.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 




That.

I did just bet my next door neighbor a case of your Leinies vs. a case of his Monkey beer on the Pack vs. the Eagles. He dropped the spot. It's straight up. He's no dummy, I'm a zealot.

Frankly, I'm very nervous. His beer is a bitch to find in this state.


wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
10 years ago
As of today GB is a pretender.

As of today GB will not make the playoffs. Many of you have been harping and saying it doesn't matter what GB does because they make the playoffs and when they do Aaron might pull a SB out of his butt. Without the playoffs their is no Aaron magic in store.

Can they change? Sure. Will the move of CM3 to MLB make things different? I don't know for sure. You don't know for sure. We can only hope it will but there is no real proof that the defense has actually improved enough to beat a quality team outside of the results we saw when they played a Bears team that quit before they even walked on to the field. So the results from that game as far as the defense is concerned is meaningless just like the results from the preseason don't really mean very much either.

We can only hope GB beats teams with winning record in some kind of a convincing manner to show they really can win against those kinds of teams. They will have 3, maybe 4 chances to prove they are contenders in the next 7 games. Until they do win their track record show they are pretenders.
Pack93z
10 years ago
The one factor other than QB the loses have in common.. the playing surface. Simply put.. the Packers are not a great turf team. From the offensive line to the defense just doesn't play well on a fast track vs. a natural surface.

In a league where the margin of victory is small.. I think it a factor physically but probably even more mentally.

That said... I think our helter skelter defense has me skeptical that we are anything but a pretender at the moment. Couple that with a weak running game to date in which we struggle to control the clock when needed.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
The Jets were 1-0 when the Pack played them.
The Bears were 2-1 the 1st time The Pack played them.

Does that count as beating teams with a winning record?

The Vikings and The Dolphins were 2-2 when The Packers played them.

"The team that takes the field in December usually does not resemble the team that took the field in September."

A team can ONLY play the teams on their schedule.

The Packers are contenders until they are eliminated from the playoff race.



I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
olds70supreme
10 years ago

I don't see how you can say if they played the teams ten times scenario fitting in here. As you know, you win you continue, you lose you go home. The Packers have lost against teams that are definitely contenders and can only beat teams that are pretenders.


I'm just not seeing contender from the Packers. The next game they have to beat a real contender is the Patriots. if they can win that game, then we can consider them tilted towards contenders instead of pretenders.



I think we are closer on this than it sounds, if there was a venn diagram to illustrate this we would be in the middle section. This is splitting hairs, but my point is that 3 games of losing to a quality opponent isn't significant enough to rule a team out. It certainly indicates that they can't beat a quality opponent, but all it actually proves is that they didn't. There is no solace to be taken here, but if two quality teams play each other, at least one has to lose. You could replace "quality teams" with "CONTENDERS". Let's say there are three remaining quality teams to be played this year (Eagles, Patriots, and Lions) - how many wins out of this total of six games do the Packers need to be rated a contender?

In the end it's too subjective to come to a clear conclusion, but it does make fore good fan discussion.
blank
+1
dfosterf
10 years ago

I think we are closer on this than it sounds, if there was a venn diagram to illustrate this we would be in the middle section. This is splitting hairs, but my point is that 3 games of losing to a quality opponent isn't significant enough to rule a team out. It certainly indicates that they can't beat a quality opponent, but all it actually proves is that they didn't. There is no solace to be taken here, but if two quality teams play each other, at least one has to lose. You could replace "quality teams" with "CONTENDERS". Let's say there are three remaining quality teams to be played this year (Eagles, Patriots, and Lions) - how many wins out of this total of six games do the Packers need to be rated a contender?

In the end it's too subjective to come to a clear conclusion, but it does make fore good fan discussion.

Originally Posted by: olds70supreme 




I don't have a venn diagram, whatever the hell that is, but I do have a dfosterf memory of my team getting it's ass beat.

I'll go with that. The dfosterf memory of my team getting it's ass beat. I will review my memory of the dfosterf memory of my team getting it's ass beat after this week, when it plays a quality opponent, imo, albeit with a home team advantage, which of course, I like.


PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

That's not going to help much in the playoffs because they most likely be on the road. Not that it matters because the Giants and 49ers don't seem to have any issues with playing in Lambeau Field.


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What makes you think they will be playing on the road? The teams ahead of us
Philly has a backup QB playing, and also has two games against Dallas and one against SEA.
Dallas has the two games against Philly, another against Indy and Romo with a questionable back.
Arizona a backup QB and a tough schedule remaining

SEA is tied with us but has the tie breaker.

The team takes care of business at home and depending on what Detroit does the next two weeks, our schedule is beneficial for getting home games.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
+1
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (now) : Golden is wearing guardian cap again. I bet he plays with it on too.
    Mucky Tundra (15h) : All the stuff I'm reading from Lions fans are pointing at his toe; he more or less has permanent turf toe in one of his big toes
    dfosterf (16h) : Kenny played through it, and a shame he gets little credit for that, imo
    dfosterf (16h) : Big men. I hope it's not the undoing of Kenny Clark
    dfosterf (16h) : Probably his toe. Pretty much a great center. Toe injuries are brutal to bigen
    Mucky Tundra (22h) : Lions All-Pro C Frank Ragnow retires
    wpr (30-May) : It's all good.
    beast (30-May) : Yeah, and I enjoyed your comments and just attempted to add to it. Sorry if I did it incorrectly.
    wpr (30-May) : Beast I never said Henderson was the salt of the earth. Nor even that he was correct. Just quoting the guy.
    Zero2Cool (29-May) : What did you do??
    Zero2Cool (29-May) : Whoa
    beast (29-May) : OMG the website is now all white, even some white on white text
    beast (29-May) : Henderson, who admits to taking cocaine during the Super Bowl against the Steelers, might dislike Bradshaw as he lost two Superbowls to him
    wpr (28-May) : Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw “is so dumb, he couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the C and an A.”
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Cooper stock=BUY BUY BUY
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Also notes he’s playing with more confidence.
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : @AndyHermanNFL MLF says there was a time last year where Cooper was at 220 pounds. Now he’s at 240 and still flying around.
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : And don't even get me started on Frank Caliendos "impersonations"
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I got tired of them being circle jerks with them overlaughing at each others jokes.
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : It used to be must watch TV for me. now it's "meh" maybe to hear injury update
    Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I haven't watched the pregame shows in years and I don't feel like I've missed a thing
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : Love says knee affected him all season, groin injury didn't help matters.
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : I used to enjoy him on FOX Pregame. Now it's like a frat party of former Patriots.
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : LaFleur on Watson: “Christian is doing outstanding. I would say he’s ahead of schedule.”
    Martha Careful (28-May) : Bradshaw is a dumb ass cracker. I am so tired of his "aw shucks" diatribe. He should shrivel up and go away.
    buckeyepackfan (28-May) : He wad all butt hurt because Aaron duped the media saying he was immunized.
    buckeyepackfan (28-May) : Bradshaw needs to retire. He's been ripping on Rodgers ever since the covid crap. He was all hury
    Zero2Cool (28-May) : Terry Bradshaw doesn't want Rodgers in Pittsburgh lol wow
    Zero2Cool (27-May) : one day contract, which he also feels is pointless, but if Packers came to him, he would
    packerfanoutwest (27-May) : Aaron Rodgers talks possibility of retiring with Packers, just another rumor
    dfosterf (27-May) : Go watch 2001
    Zero2Cool (26-May) : 1984
    dfosterf (26-May) : That movie sent a chill through many. 1968.
    dfosterf (26-May) : "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
    buckeyepackfan (25-May) : Haven't we all seen thus movie? It doesn't end well!! Lol
    Zero2Cool (25-May) : lol Anthropic’s new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline
    dfosterf (25-May) : Claude Opus 4
    dfosterf (25-May) : AI system resorts to blackmail when its developers threaten to take it offline
    beast (22-May) : Colts Owner Jim Irsay has passed away
    Zero2Cool (21-May) : Well, emailing should work now. After not working for almost a year. Oops.
    Zero2Cool (21-May) : Brotherly Shove did not get enough votes.
    Zero2Cool (20-May) : lol our email hasn't worked in months. 7 pages of unverified users
    Zero2Cool (20-May) : MySpace Screaming Lord Byron ... Brett Favre.
    Zero2Cool (19-May) : Packers have signed first-round pick Matthew Golden, leaving second-round tackle Anthony Belton as their only unsigned draft pick
    beast (19-May) : Supposedly he has to take his image, and name off of it... but otherwise could keep selling wine if he wanted to.
    Zero2Cool (19-May) : he giving up his win business?
    beast (19-May) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
    Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
    dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
    Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

    22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.