texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
If we ever actually need a QB to perform - as opposed to having a 40+ point lead, I WISH it would be Scott Tolzien - who could actually do something positive, instead of Matt Flynn, who is looking crappier every time he plays.

Also, I know there is some love for James Starks in here, but I STRONGLY contend that DuJuan Harris is a LOT better RB. If there are wide open holes - as hardly ever happens with our O Line, they are about equal. If the RB needs to create - jump step/look for a small opening/change direction, Harris is much better than Starks. Let Starks return kickoffs - he might be slightly faster, but let Harris be the change of pace back when Lacy goes out.
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
Harris is also better than Lacy in those same aspects he seems better than Starks in also.

Starks is a mix between Lacy and Harris. He has more power than Harris, he has more speed and quickness than Lacy.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
I just wish they'd use Harris a little more in the passing game-he's got a lot more quickness than Lacy and during the 2012 season he looked a lot more natural at it than Starks does.
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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

I just wish they'd use Harris a little more in the passing game-he's got a lot more quickness than Lacy and during the 2012 season he looked a lot more natural at it than Starks does.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Putting him back there is sort of a telegraph that it is a pass play though. Not sure if his pass blocking ability either at this point. Starks and Lacy can run block and catch. Leaving the defense with more to worry about.
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Putting him back there is sort of a telegraph that it is a pass play though. Not sure if his pass blocking ability either at this point. Starks and Lacy can run block and catch. Leaving the defense with more to worry about.

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DuJuan Harris, James Starks give Packers strong depth in backfield 

Despite his size, Harris is a mighty mite when it comes to blitz pickup.

"I think a lot of times these linebackers think they're going to run him over and then they take the brunt of it," Clements said. "If you watch him, he's a powerful guy. Very strong legs. He's compact."

The well-muscled Harris stopped three blitzers from the Rams and several more from the Raiders.

"You've got to like it," Harris said. "You've just got to stick your head in there."



I distinctly remember him doing well in the 2013 preseason in pass pro before he got hurt but that might just be me.
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10 years ago
Flynn or Tolzien the Packers are screwed if Aaron goes down. Last year proved it.

Both Starks and Harris offer a little something but neither will be effective if the OL doesn't do their job first. Lacy at least has been able to get 3-4 yards after being hit in the backfield. No one else will be able to do that.
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TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago
I am in total agreement with getting the ball in Harris' hands more often. I would like to see him used like a Sproles type of back and think he has the talent to pull it off. I also think he makes Starks expendable, but as we have all 3 and they are healthy and the weather is going to get worse lets see what the future brings. I am not sure if there is a big difference from Flynn to Tolzien other than experience in the Packers Offensive system. I can lament on the plays Flynn has made while he has played this season, but one also has to remember last night he was playing with back-up guards, back-up WRs and not much of a motivation to be all that creative other than kill the clock. He must be doing something well in practice.

I really wasn't that impressed with Boykin last night from what I saw. Just throwing another back-up type guy into the mix for discussion.
yooperfan
10 years ago

Putting him back there is sort of a telegraph that it is a pass play though. Not sure if his pass blocking ability either at this point. Starks and Lacy can run block and catch. Leaving the defense with more to worry about.

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I agree whole heartedly.

yooperfan
10 years ago

I am in total agreement with getting the ball in Harris' hands more often. I would like to see him used like a Sproles type of back and think he has the talent to pull it off. I also think he makes Starks expendable, but as we have all 3 and they are healthy and the weather is going to get worse lets see what the future brings. I am not sure if there is a big difference from Flynn to Tolzien other than experience in the Packers Offensive system. I can lament on the plays Flynn has made while he has played this season, but one also has to remember last night he was playing with back-up guards, back-up WRs and not much of a motivation to be all that creative other than kill the clock. He must be doing something well in practice.

I really wasn't that impressed with Boykin last night from what I saw. Just throwing another back-up type guy into the mix for discussion.

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Runningback wise the Packers are in a good place.
Quarterback wise I'd like to see Tolzien moved up to #2.

texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Flynn or Tolzien the Packers are screwed if Aaron goes down. Last year proved it.

Both Starks and Harris offer a little something but neither will be effective if the OL doesn't do their job first. Lacy at least has been able to get 3-4 yards after being hit in the backfield. No one else will be able to do that.

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Probably true if Rodgers is hurt, the Packers are mediocre at best without him. I think with Tolzien, though, we could beat some weaker teams and give a little bit of a battle to some decent ones. With Flynn, there is basically no chance.

The time I would most like to see Harris used is when our O Line is at its worst - overmatched against a good D. Unlike Starks and even Lacy who sometimes remind me of an old electric football game like in that Jimmy Johnson commercial - just bumping into the backsides of the linemen and going nowhere, Harris can create/squirt through smaller holes/do that Melvin Gordon jump step thing, sideways without losing speed.
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