texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
What I really don't want to hear is, "I wish him luck and success elsewhere".

If he really has flopped to the extent that he needed to be cut, I hope he will be out of football or sitting permanently on somebody else's bench. The nightmare scenario is that our bust goes on to help somebody else.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Bust.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Bust? Did Derek Sherrod live up to even a 4th round expectation, no. I have a difficult time calling a player a bust when their shortcomings were a devestating injury and they couldn't over come it. Ahmad Carroll, he was a bust. Justin Harrell, he was injury prone and its not any different than Sherrod.

All said and done though, it's a first round pick that is not contributing and the label is irrelevant.


He didn't look good at all this year but I still don't get cutting him instead of Taylor or Gerhart. With Tretter we have a G/C but now we have no back up T at all.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



JC Tretter played Tackle in college and I am guessing they think he can fill in as an emergency rather than shuffling TJ Lang to the outside and inserting Tretter at RG. That makes sense to me as I do not like it when one injury effects multiple positions.
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10 years ago
It is really hard to call a player who was injured a bust but it sure didn't help that he never came around post injury. It stinks about as bad as Terrence Murphy's career getting cut short. I don't think he is considered a bust.

Well I wish him well none the less. The man might still get it all put together somewhere else. Maybe if he does Mike and Uncle Teddy will see that Campen isn't the OL coach GB needs. There have been a number of OLmen who couldn't make it work in GB but found success elsewhere. How much better would would the Packers offense be if they had a solid OL?
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
If I were Sherrod I'd be looking up Marshall Newhouses address and taking a trip along with a baseball bat in the passenger seat but that's just me.
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nyrpack
10 years ago
never reached his potential !!
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TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago

I'm surprised with the move. Not because Sherod was good, but because this kind of move isn't at all the "norm" with Ted.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I am wondering if this is more of a financial thing. Sherrod as a 1st round pick was probably making quite a bit more than some of the other candidates who could be cut to make room for Tretter on the active roster.

texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Bust or Injury Prone? Good Question. I wonder what he would have been like if not for the horrible broken leg. He seems to suffer from a really bad case of slow-footedness now. Probably that is because of the leg break, but what is it, two years since then? I'm not so sure he wouldn't have been slow-footed regardless - a degree of which you can still be successful with in college football, but not really in the pros. If he wasn't another Justin Harrell, would he have been another Tony Mandarich?
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luigis
10 years ago

Bust or Injury Prone? Good Question. I wonder what he would have been like if not for the horrible broken leg. He seems to suffer from a really bad case of slow-footedness now. Probably that is because of the leg break, but what is it, two years since then? I'm not so sure he wouldn't have been slow-footed regardless - a degree of which you can still be successful with in college football, but not really in the pros. If he wasn't another Justin Harrell, would he have been another Tony Mandarich?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Is there a difference? An injury prone player that could never play at a good level is a bust.
The slow foot is not the only problem I saw in Sherrod, when he played I saw a player that didn't finish the play, he was just standing there after being defeated. I believe that was the reason why he was cut.

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Laser Gunns
10 years ago

It is really hard to call a player who was injured a bust but it sure didn't help that he never came around post injury. It stinks about as bad as Terrence Murphy's career getting cut short. I don't think he is considered a bust.

Well I wish him well none the less. The man might still get it all put together somewhere else. Maybe if he does Mike and Uncle Teddy will see that Campen isn't the OL coach GB needs. There have been a number of OLmen who couldn't make it work in GB but found success elsewhere. How much better would would the Packers offense be if they had a solid OL?

Originally Posted by: wpr 




We must have different definitions of a bust.

In my opinion, it is purely production vs draft status, nothing else matters. No excuses. If a player dies 15 mins after you draft him, that pick was a bust because we got no meaningful production from him.

Same story for Harrell, Worthy, And Datone (to this point).



With the 32nd pick we got 20 games. All on the bench, or injured.

And when he did come back, healthy as he can get, Sherrod looked like crap. Granted, he was playing RT not his natural LT, but it doesn't matter because when he was in, he mostly stunk.

Waste of a pick.

Edit: not saying it was a bad pick at the time, but it ultimatly turned out to be one.

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nerdmann
10 years ago

We must have different definitions of a bust.

In my opinion, it is purely production vs draft status, nothing else matters. No excuses. If a player dies 15 mins after you draft him, that pick was a bust because we got no meaningful production from him.

Same story for Harrell, Worthy, And Datone (to this point).



With the 32nd pick we got 20 games. All on the bench, or injured.

And when he did come back, healthy as he can get, Sherrod looked like crap. Granted, he was playing RT not his natural LT, but it doesn't matter because when he was in, he mostly stunk.

Waste of a pick.

Edit: not saying it was a bad pick at the time, but it ultimatly turned out to be one.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



As GM, you want a talent evaluator. No one can tell what flukes are gonna happen in the future. I don't put these injuries on Ted.
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